[MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names

Mark Dorset mark.dorset at sun.com
Mon May 12 16:52:03 EST 2003


In BIND you set what file that the server looks at for a particular 
domain, so you can easily just point both format domains to use the same 
single zone file. Then one edit affects both domains entries.


Ben Holko wrote:
>>Why not have a two working domains for each node ala
> 
> <nodestuff>.<internal domain> and <nodestuff>.<external domain>.
> 
> that's not a bad idea, but it means when something needs changing, it has to
> be changed in two locations....which kyboshes it IMHO
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> [mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au]On Behalf Of Mark Dorset
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 4:28 PM
> To: Craig Mead
> Cc: Abe Orchard; Melbourne Wireless Group
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names
> 
> 
> Why not have a two working domains for each node ala
> <nodestuff>.<internal domain> and <nodestuff>.<external domain>. Both
> can refer to the same non-routable IP address and then members can pick
> whether they want to point their DNS to the internet DNS and use domains
> like dch.i.like.long.domains.a.lot.melbourne.wireless.org.au or the
> internal DNS server and use domains like dch.wl...
> 
> The only potential issue I can see is if people start doing absolute URL
> links rather than relative ones on websites, etc. If we made it an
> acceptable standard to have everyone add either an internal or internal
> search domain depending on their DNS choice, then people could do links
> on pages like "http://<node host>/directory/index.html" and let the
> search domain complete the rest...
> 
> At the end of the day though, I'm not too fussed... There's always
> workarounds for other people's long DNS naming conventions...
> 
> 
> Craig Mead wrote:
> 
>>>Umm.. now I am no expert here but can't you just run two domain name
>>>systems?  :) that would be fun.. I understand some competing companies
>>
>>tried
>>
>>
>>>it to sell <dot>yourcompanynamehere domains a while ago.. they slotted
>>>software into Kazza to get people to be able to resolve the names but
>>
>>people
>>
>>
>>>seemed to think it was spyware.
>>>
>>>Abe
>>
>>
>>By two domain systems you mean one internal (MW) and one external
>>(internet)?
>>
>>According to the RFC on how DNS should work, this will not work.
>>
>>The RFC basically says if I have a list of DNS servers and the first DNS
>>server returns unknown, the process will halt, not calling upon the
>>alternatives in the DNS server list. The only time it should go to
>>secondary/tertiary servers is when the servers don't respond at all.
>>
>>Given this however, after testing it on Windows and RedHat systems, they
>>don't actually comply with the RFC. If the address was unknown on the
> 
> first
> 
>>server (ISP's) the name would resolve from my DNS server (hosting the
>>wireless records). However knowingly planning a network which breaks RFC
> 
> so
> 
>>if RedHat/M$ pull their asses into gear and decide to comply with these
>>"standards" as well as the chance that some of the other OS's out there
> 
> may
> 
>>well comply with the RFC as well, this really isn't an option
>>
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