[MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names

[Ben Holko]

>In BIND you set what file that the server looks at for a particular
domain, so you can easily just point both format domains to use the same
single zone file. Then one edit affects both domains entries.

only if they're both on the same server, which kind of defeats the point of
running two names....


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Dorset [mailto:mark.dorset at sun.com]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 4:52 PM
To: Ben Holko
Cc: Melbourne Wireless Group
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names


In BIND you set what file that the server looks at for a particular
domain, so you can easily just point both format domains to use the same
single zone file. Then one edit affects both domains entries.


Ben Holko wrote:
>>Why not have a two working domains for each node ala
>
> <nodestuff>.<internal domain> and <nodestuff>.<external domain>.
>
> that's not a bad idea, but it means when something needs changing, it has
to
> be changed in two locations....which kyboshes it IMHO
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> [mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au]On Behalf Of Mark Dorset
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 4:28 PM
> To: Craig Mead
> Cc: Abe Orchard; Melbourne Wireless Group
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names
>
>
> Why not have a two working domains for each node ala
> <nodestuff>.<internal domain> and <nodestuff>.<external domain>. Both
> can refer to the same non-routable IP address and then members can pick
> whether they want to point their DNS to the internet DNS and use domains
> like dch.i.like.long.domains.a.lot.melbourne.wireless.org.au or the
> internal DNS server and use domains like dch.wl...
>
> The only potential issue I can see is if people start doing absolute URL
> links rather than relative ones on websites, etc. If we made it an
> acceptable standard to have everyone add either an internal or internal
> search domain depending on their DNS choice, then people could do links
> on pages like "http://<node host>/directory/index.html" and let the
> search domain complete the rest...
>
> At the end of the day though, I'm not too fussed... There's always
> workarounds for other people's long DNS naming conventions...
>
>
> Craig Mead wrote:
>
>>>Umm.. now I am no expert here but can't you just run two domain name
>>>systems?  :) that would be fun.. I understand some competing companies
>>
>>tried
>>
>>
>>>it to sell <dot>yourcompanynamehere domains a while ago.. they slotted
>>>software into Kazza to get people to be able to resolve the names but
>>
>>people
>>
>>
>>>seemed to think it was spyware.
>>>
>>>Abe
>>
>>
>>By two domain systems you mean one internal (MW) and one external
>>(internet)?
>>
>>According to the RFC on how DNS should work, this will not work.
>>
>>The RFC basically says if I have a list of DNS servers and the first DNS
>>server returns unknown, the process will halt, not calling upon the
>>alternatives in the DNS server list. The only time it should go to
>>secondary/tertiary servers is when the servers don't respond at all.
>>
>>Given this however, after testing it on Windows and RedHat systems, they
>>don't actually comply with the RFC. If the address was unknown on the
>
> first
>
>>server (ISP's) the name would resolve from my DNS server (hosting the
>>wireless records). However knowingly planning a network which breaks RFC
>
> so
>
>>if RedHat/M$ pull their asses into gear and decide to comply with these
>>"standards" as well as the chance that some of the other OS's out there
>
> may
>
>>well comply with the RFC as well, this really isn't an option
>>
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