[WG-Routing] RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names

Ryan Abbenhuys sneeze at alphalink.com.au
Mon May 12 12:15:24 EST 2003


But those addresses are so painffuuullllll :(
if you're going to be typing something that long might be easier to type
IP's!

>On this note, I think it would be nice if we had (at least) dual forward
>resolves:
> 
>fdf.wan.melbourne.wireless.org.au + 
>fdf.south-melb.wan.melbourne.wireless.org.au 
> 
>But have our reverse resolution be verbose (eg: the full location). This
>would make traceroutes more meaningful (not to mention really cool!)
> 
>    Fenn.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
>[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Matt
>Sent: Monday, 12 May 2003 11:27 AM
>To: Melbourne Wireless; Routing Workgroup
>Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names
>
>
>But isn't the point of DNS that you don't need to remember ip addresses
>or
>associate a url with a location? If someones looking for a resource on
>the
>network does it really matter where it is? you just need to know if
>you've
>got connectivity and what the ip address is. 
>
>An access point isn't likely to be running anything worthwhile, probably
>just routing a bit of data maybe a webserver. The interesting stuff will
>be
>hanging off that, the clients who are running game servers, the ptp >stuff
>that might have los to a couple of aps and be sending traffic through
>both.
>
>Once the network is built and theres a degree more connectivity, then >the
>people who need to know or who want to can simply look up in the node
>database node bcg and see that I'm running a webserver at something like
>bcg.wireless.org.au. Using global urls might make it easier to run a dns
>that sits on both the internet and the wireless networks so people can
>specify one dns and not have to split searching for internet and other
>domains off on different servers (which might be difficult to do??). All
>you
>need to know about me is that my node name is bcg, not that I'm in the
>innernorth and I'm running an AP near an oef.
>
>2c more
>Matt
>
>
>
>At 10:52 AM 12/5/2003 +1000, Matthew Hill wrote:
>
>
>Ryan and all
> 
>This is what i wanted to bring up a while ago and they werent >interested.
> 
>This is similar to what perth suggests, and what your suggested in your
>example, rocks. Exactly what is possbily should be. 
> 
>www.wantirna-ap1.oef.mw says exsactly where it is, 
> 
>www.thebigfella.peninsula.mw that would be mine ...
> 
>Al;though i can see it being a while since we dont have  alot of the
>areas
>connected, it doesnt hurrt to have something implemented early so it >fits
in
>oncec connected.
> 
>Cheers
> 
>MAtt 
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>
>From: Ryan Abbenhuys <mailto:sneeze at alphalink.com.au>  
>
>To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au 
>
>Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 10:23 AM 
>
>Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names
>
>
>
>So, is there anything happening with regards to some sort of domain 
>
>structure on the network?  Anyone from WGRouting&Addressing looking at
>this 
>
>at the moment?
>
>
>
>I've started messing with domain names over our way.  Now bear with me
>here 
>
>because I don't know much about it or the terminology....
>
>
>
>Here's a few thoughts.
>
>
>
>We need something we all use that signifies we're melbwireless. 
>
>e.g.  .wan  .mw  .melw
>
>
>
>then perhaps something to signify regional areas. 
>
>e.g. .oef (outer east&foothills) .inn (inner north) .cen (central)
>
>
>
>so you'd end up with something say www.wantirna-ap1.oef.mw
>
>
>
>Now there's of course the other school of thought that we use domain
>names 
>
>that fit in with the rest of the world. But my feeling is that this >comes

>
>back we're going to need globaly routable IP's, etc then....And some 
>
>internet feeds, at which point you're looking at a wireless network with >
>
>open internet access, which is playing with fire in my opinion.
>
>
>
>What are other peoples thoughts/ideas?
>
>
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