[MLB-WIRELESS] PCI order wrap-up.

Robert Tchia robert.tchia at palantir.com.au
Sat May 4 11:45:21 EST 2002


It doesn't matter how the payment was made. The payee will always get a
receipt of sorts for it to prove of the payment. If Buyer pay by cash
then the seller give the buyer a receipt. If the buyers pay via Money
Order then they can use the serial number on the money order. If payment
is made via the bank teller at the bank (manual DD) then the ladies at
the bank always give receipts. I am not saying this is the best solution
but at least the onus is on the buyer. 


Well if the buyer doesn't put the details in then they will miss out on
the purchase. The seller can always refund the buyer. Or maybe when a
bulk buy is closed the seller leave it for few days on the system for
buyers to input details. After that the seller closes it completely.


Again if people depend on others to baby sit them then tough. Its not
the seller's job to ensure they read the mail. Again the onus is on the
buyer. Just the buyer expects the seller to do all the works and deliver
the goods on time.

I have never organised a bulk buy before, but I am a buyer and I will
make sure I do enter my details so I will get my order.

Cheers
Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of vak
Sent: Saturday, 4 May 2002 9:33 AM
To: melbwireless
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] PCI order wrap-up.

The problem with that is that not everyone can pay with netbank.
Some will pay cash, some will pay via money order, some via manual
direct
debit.

What happens if someone makes a payment (direct debit), and they don't
put
their details in the database and (for argument's sake) the database
deletes
them AND there is only a specific number of cards left...... people will
get
pissed off.

1 important thing..... Believe it or not, but people DON'T actually read
what you send them. I am sure anyone who's organised a bulk buy will
attest
to this.

Vaskos
--------

Robert Tchia wrote:

> One suggestion, Why not have a field where a buyer can enter the
receipt
> number. When a buyer places an order he or she will have, for example
3
> days (the reason for 3 days is to cover weekend) to make the payment
> (i.e. Deposit cash or DD). Then the buyer returns to the TIB site,
login
> and submit the bank issued receipt number on My Purchases page. The
> Seller can login and collect all the receipt number and verify them
with
> the bank. Any buyers with blank receipt number are deleted by the
seller
> after the above specified days. If the buyer has payed the seller
before
> he or she was deleted then the buyer can place a new order and input
the
> receipt number. The total amount ordered from all buyers should add up
> at the end.
>
> Hope this make some sense :)
>
> Cheers
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> [mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Ryan
Abbenhuys
> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2002 8:33 PM
> To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] PCI order wrap-up.
>
> Problems occur however when there's a specific amount available and no
> less
> or no more can be bought.  As in my case, the item in question was "a
> box of
> 20 orinoco's".
> I needed to cover the 20 cards exactly.
> I had no choice but to chase people.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Chipman" <mkchipman at optushome.com.au>
> To: "Fenn Bailey" <fenn_b at zip.com.au>; "''Melbwireless (E-mail)'"
> <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] PCI order wrap-up.
>
> > If someone doesnt honour their request with a payment, they are
hardly
> going
> > to respond to a phone call.
> >
> > The onus is on the buyer not the seller.  I hardly expect someone
who
> is
> > going through all the issues creating and organising a bulk order to
> spend
> > their own time and money ringing people that cant be bothered
reading
> an
> > email.
> >
> > Fact is, future bulk orders will be money up front and the final
order
> > created after payment is recieved and numbers confirmed.
> >
> > That said, this whole process is a l;earning curve for everyone and
> the
> > rules will become clear over time.  The first step in this is Fenns
> awesome
> > TIB.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fenn Bailey" <fenn_b at zip.com.au>
> > To: "''Melbwireless (E-mail)'" <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 2:49 PM
> > Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] PCI order wrap-up.
> >
> >
> > > On that note,
> > >
> > > I have been throwing around the idea of having a phone numbers as
> > > manditory on TIB.
> > >
> > > What are people's opinions on this?
> > >
> > >     Fenn.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> > > [mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of
ABBENHUYS,
> Ryan
> > > Sent: Friday, 3 May 2002 2:30 PM
> > > To: 'Melbwireless (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] PCI order wrap-up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I can assure you that most people who have not organised their own
> bulk
> > > buy yet have no idea whatsoever, the amount of stress their
> > > unco-operativeness with payments puts on the organiser.
> > >
> > > It's a good idea to get contact phone numbers from people for BH
and
> AH
> > > so that you can ring and abuse them rather than having to wait for
> > > someone who only seems to check their email once a month and
expects
> to
> > > be able to pay you off with weekly 50cent installments for the
next
> 216
> > > years.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul van den Bergen [mailto:paul at serc.rmit.edu.au]
> > > Sent: Friday, 3 May 2002 14:15
> > > To: 'Melbwireless (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] PCI order wrap-up.
> > >
> > >
> > > (*aside* Honestly, I don't know whether it is because this is an
> email
> > > forum, but plenty of people here seem to be very very slack with
> paying
> > > up and responding to email.  And I thought I was tardy! *sheesh*
> Roll
> > > on TIB - I have not had an extensive look, but can I suggest a
> feature?
> > >  set a feature that allows you to count (only?) those orders that
> have
> > > been paid for.  I have reached the conclusion that this is the
only
> way
> > > to get a certain figure of how many people are actually in an
order.
> > >  And as I am sure some here will testify, returning someones money
> is
> > > less hassle than chasing them for it or trying to sell excess
stock)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dr Paul van den Bergen
> > > SERC
> > > goofey:bulwynkl
> > > paul at serc.rmit.edu.au
> > > +613 9925 1624 (Phone)
> > > +613 9925 5699 (Fax)
> > >
> > >
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