[MLB-WIRELESS] Obtaining a carrier license

Dan Flett conhoolio at hotmail.com
Fri Sep 22 23:33:38 EST 2006


Like I said before - we are waaaaaaaay over-regulated.

Do we really need this level of protection from ourselves?  Would Australia
descend into chaos if our telecommunications weren't so regulated?  I think
not.

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: melbwireless-bounces at wireless.org.au 
> [mailto:melbwireless-bounces at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Tim Hogard
> Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 10:30 PM
> To: Point Cook Freenet
> Cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Obtaining a carrier license
> 
> 
> > In order to apply for a carrier license you need to submit a sound 
> > Industry Development Plan.
> > The application fee is $2000 and the annual fee is $1000 plus a fee 
> > based on your profit margin.
> This is wrong.  If your small your exempt from the IDP.
> 
> Your not exempt from a "interception capability plan" and 
> that takes much more work.
> 
> > The network rollout must be planned and approved, which 
> means you plan 
> > it, get your license THEN build it, not the other way around.
> Nope.  You can't sell anything until you have asked for 
> approval and you get burned if they say no.
> 
> > There are laws regarding siting of equipment , mounting of antennas 
> > etc but most of our stuff would be low impact, below the 
> line installations.
> > Although limited or no permits are needed, notification 
> BEFORE it is 
> > built is required.
> Also not accurate.  As someone pointed out a carrier license 
> is a "building permit for everywhere"
> 
> > You may not need a company structure, you may be able to 
> apply as an 
> > Incorporated Association which only costs $56 and requires 
> six people 
> > and a public officer (i run a Residents Association Inc).
> Wrong again.
> 1st few sections of that section state that the comapny must 
> be the right kind of organization under the corporations act.
> 
> > Intercept laws and methods are fairly straight forward, but would 
> > require a robust network management system, connection to 
> ALL nodes, a 
> > link to ASIO etc ALL at your expense.
> Again wrong.  Its at the reasonable costs of the agency in question.
> 
> > If you seriously wanted to try it
> >  
> > 1.    Treat the $2000 as a gamble, and spin that wheel
> True.
> > 2.    Plan a small network eg 10 nodes which currently dont exist
> See above.
> > 3.    Build a sound network management plan
> Not requireed but will burn you once the 1st TIO compalint shows up.
> > 4.    Create a small company for the purpose, independant 
> of, but linked to
> > Melb Wireless.
> Almost.  It needs to be a new company or else you may need to 
> get statements of the creators of the shelf company for years.
> > 5.    Build a central network management system (a PC) 
> which can "see" all
> > the nodes
> Sanity would require this but hops are ok.
> > 6.    Register all the users of the network (Name address, 
> drivers license
> > etc.) I suggest 100 Melb Wireless members.
> You have to id users but you don't need 100 points.  I'm not 
> sure the AG dept would be happy with 5 points but thats their 
> problem to point out to you after you send in the binder of paperwork.
> 
> > 7.    Write a development plan showing the history of the 
> group, what you
> > intend to do, what services you will supply and what you 
> WILL NOT do. 
> > A carrier license makes you Optus overnight, so you need to 
> limit your means.
> Here is that:
>  Foo Pty Ltd is exempt for the requirement to lodge an 
> Industry  Development Plan (IDP) because the annual capital 
> expenditure of  our small company is less than the 
> $20,000,000 threshold.
> 
> > 8.    Write a business plan which shows how 'the company' 
> will manage its
> > costs. I suggest a subscription fee of $50 x 100 users gives you a 
> > starting operating capital.
> A business plan isn't needed.
> > 9.   Get a small Internet backbone link, eg 1.5 MB to 6 MB 
> to start with.
> Thats easy.  HVC already has active fiber to the tower.
> > Just to demonstrate the function without going overboard.
> > 10.    Plan security for the network including encryption.
> This is a major can of worms under "communications protection"
> > 11.    Write a public relations policy.
> That isn't need but about 30 other polices are.
> If you don't know how to curses the paperwork of ISO 9000, 
> this is not your game.
> 
> -tim
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