[MLB-WIRELESS] Reality Bites - Was: node names - conventions and sub domains

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Messagesteve you votes in teh commitee right?, as did other people, the
commitee is there to work on our behalf, they dont need to ask each of us if
they can pick there noses, they are doing what they belive is right on
behalf of melbourne wireless, afterall its not "steve's melbourne wireless"
is it?
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au]On Behalf Of Steven Haigh
  Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2003 5:41 PM
  To: txrx at eridu.net; melbwireless at wireless.org.au
  Cc: committee at wireless.org.au
  Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Reality Bites - Was: node names - conventions
and sub domains


  ohh - this is great.. I think... but wait... as a paying member of
Melbourne Wireless, where was the consultation of the membership before
these rather major decisions were made? I don't recall hearing anything
along these lines before..

  All discussions I've had with Tyson, and some other committee members
haven't mentioned anything about changing domain etc... Yes, I was aware you
guys are putting together your own server, and have been for quite some
time - always with the result of 'it's almost ready'...

  As a paying member, I am also disapointed in the current committee for
their lack of voice on most issues. I forget the last time I actually heard
what was going on in the committee, and I certainly haven't heard the
direction in which MW is supposed to be heading.

  I think moving domains is a major issue, as we have already established a
major awareness of melbourne.wireless.org.au... I draw inspiration for the
Wireless Institute of Australia (www.wia.org.au) when looking at how I
believe *.wireless.org.au should be set up... The AWA was supposed to be a
voice for all wireless groups, but flopped. Mainly because they were
involved in actually deploying a network.

  I have been active in Melbourne Wireless ever since it's inception, but
with the lack of communication between he committee and it's members, there
is no reason for me to even renew my membership at this point - as I don't
hear anything from them anyway. This is a major problem, and needs to be
addressed before thinking about making major changes that threaten the
stability of the group as a whole.

  --
  Signed,
  Steven Haigh
  http://wireless.org.au
  (Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)

  You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.
  We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
  I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Troy Mitchell
    To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
    Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:29 PM
    Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] node names - conventions and sub domains


    In the near future, melbourne.wireless.org.au will be hosted on a
    different machine than w.o.a, this has been in progress for some
    months, Steve is fully aware of this.
    We (the MW Committee) have discussed packages, deployment and policy for
    the new server and many of the suggestions (including nodexxx domain
    redirects) made over the last 12 months have been already been
    implemented.
    We now own the melbournewireless.org.au domain, and our intention is to
    use this as the primary domain on the new server.
    All of our mailing lists will also be moved over to the new server as
    part of the migration.
    Further details coming, when we have them.


    Troy Mitchell.
    on behalf of the Melbourne Wireless Committee

      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Steven Haigh
      Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2003 11:23 AM
      To: Steven; melbwireless at wireless.org.au
      Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] node names - conventions and sub domains


      I'm probably the best person to answer this at this point....

      The current wireless.org.au (w.o.a) was set up very quickly - by three
people working on it at the same time, and completed overnight. This was
because of a hardware failure, and we had no presence. We had to compromise
flexibility for a quick turnaround.

      Back then, MW was hosted on w.o.a - but for both political and
functionality reasons, MW was moved to melbourne.w.o.a.. w.o.a is kind of in
limbo at this point until the server is replaced with Evolution 4.

      Evolution 4 is the 4th complete rebuild of the w.o.a server since
version 1 back in 2000... E4 will have new hardware (and we may need some
help obtaining a few items - specifically 2 x new 80Gb hdd's, raid card etc)
but will be based on a dual P3 800, probably 1Gb of RAM... This should keep
up with requirements for the forseeable future.

      On the software side, the security will be greatly improved, as well
as runing latest versions of everything. All groups will be on their
location.w.o.a url, as well as generic mailing lists such as
list at melbourne.w.o.a, list at geelong.w.o.a etc etc. This will hopefully make
thing much simpler for both existing groups, and new groups to use the
services of w.o.a...

      As for using nodexxx.w.o.a, under the future plans, it will not be
possible to do this, as it is not group specific... it may happen later down
the track as nodexxx.melbourne.w.o.a, but I can't confirm anything at this
stage.

      Signed,
      Steven Haigh
      http://wireless.org.au
      (Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)

      You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.
      We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
      I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup.


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Steven
        To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
        Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:35 AM
        Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] node names - conventions and sub domains


        HI,

        I was wondering why since the naming convention for node is
nodeXXX.wireless.org.au or XXX.wireless.org.au (XXX=node ID) then why not
make the sub domain link to a web page on the Melbwireless web site. For
example, the address XXX.wireless.org.au could link to the wiki page for
that node. Or at least make that sub domain available for the node owner for
uploading/editing.

        Is this possible. I don't see that it would be to hard to add the
sub domains or is there a policy against this.

        Regards,
        Steve
        nodeFSE


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