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<DIV><SPAN class=206472507-01112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>steve
you votes in teh commitee right?, as did other people, the commitee is there to
work on our behalf, they dont need to ask each of us if they can pick there
noses, they are doing what they belive is right on behalf of melbourne wireless,
afterall its not "steve's melbourne wireless" is it? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Steven
Haigh<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 1 November 2003 5:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
txrx@eridu.net; melbwireless@wireless.org.au<BR><B>Cc:</B>
committee@wireless.org.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Reality Bites
- Was: node names - conventions and sub domains<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ohh - this is great.. I think... but wait... as a
paying member of Melbourne Wireless, where was the consultation of the
membership before these rather major decisions were made? I don't recall
hearing anything along these lines before.. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All discussions I've had with Tyson, and some
other committee members haven't mentioned anything about changing domain
etc... Yes, I was aware you guys are putting together your own server, and
have been for quite some time - always with the result of 'it's almost
ready'... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As a paying member, I am also disapointed in the
current committee for their lack of voice on most issues. I forget the last
time I actually heard what was going on in the committee, and I certainly
haven't heard the direction in which MW is supposed to be
heading.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think moving domains is a major issue, as we
have already established a major awareness of melbourne.wireless.org.au... I
draw inspiration for the Wireless Institute of Australia (<A
href="http://www.wia.org.au">www.wia.org.au</A>) when looking at how I believe
*.wireless.org.au should be set up... The AWA was supposed to be a voice for
all wireless groups, but flopped. Mainly because they were involved in
actually deploying a network.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have been active in Melbourne Wireless ever
since it's inception, but with the lack of communication between he committee
and it's members, there is no reason for me to even renew my membership at
this point - as I don't hear anything from them anyway. This is a major
problem, and needs to be addressed before thinking about making major changes
that threaten the stability of the group as a whole.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Signed,<BR>Steven Haigh<BR><A
href="http://wireless.org.au">http://wireless.org.au</A><BR>(Visit <A
href="https://wireless.org.au">https://wireless.org.au</A> to install our Root
Certificate.)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.<BR>We have
enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.<BR>I am root. If you see me
laughing, you better have a backup.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=txm@optusnet.com.au href="mailto:txm@optusnet.com.au">Troy
Mitchell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=melbwireless@wireless.org.au
href="mailto:melbwireless@wireless.org.au">melbwireless@wireless.org.au</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:29
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] node names
- conventions and sub domains</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=643052301-01112003>In
the near future, melbourne.wireless.org.au will be hosted on a<BR>different
machine than w.o.a, this has been in progress for some<BR>months, Steve is
fully aware of this.<BR>We (the MW Committee) have discussed packages,
deployment and policy for<BR>the new server and many of the suggestions
(including nodexxx domain<BR>redirects) made over the last 12 months have
been already been<BR>implemented.<BR>We now own the melbournewireless.org.au
domain, and our intention is to<BR>use this as the primary domain on the new
server.<BR>All of our mailing lists will also be moved over to the new
server as<BR>part of the migration.<BR>Further details coming, when we have
them.<BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=643052301-01112003> </DIV></SPAN></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=643052301-01112003>Troy Mitchell. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=643052301-01112003>on
behalf of the Melbourne Wireless Committee<BR></DIV></SPAN></FONT>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Steven
Haigh<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 1 November 2003 11:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Steven; melbwireless@wireless.org.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MLB-WIRELESS]
node names - conventions and sub domains<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm probably the best person to answer this
at this point....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The current wireless.org.au (w.o.a) was set
up very quickly - by three people working on it at the same time, and
completed overnight. This was because of a hardware failure, and we had no
presence. We had to compromise flexibility for a quick
turnaround.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Back then, MW was hosted on w.o.a - but for
both political and functionality reasons, MW was moved to
melbourne.w.o.a.. w.o.a is kind of in limbo at this point until the server
is replaced with Evolution 4.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Evolution 4 is the 4th complete rebuild of
the w.o.a server since version 1 back in 2000... E4 will have new hardware
(and we may need some help obtaining a few items - specifically 2 x new
80Gb hdd's, raid card etc) but will be based on a dual P3 800, probably
1Gb of RAM... This should keep up with requirements for the forseeable
future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the software side, the security will be
greatly improved, as well as runing latest versions of everything. All
groups will be on their location.w.o.a url, as well as generic mailing
lists such as <A
href="mailto:list@melbourne.w.o.a">list@melbourne.w.o.a</A>, <A
href="mailto:list@geelong.w.o.a">list@geelong.w.o.a</A> etc etc. This will
hopefully make thing much simpler for both existing groups, and new groups
to use the services of w.o.a...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As for using nodexxx.w.o.a, under the future
plans, it will not be possible to do this, as it is not group specific...
it may happen later down the track as nodexxx.melbourne.w.o.a, but I can't
confirm anything at this stage.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Signed,<BR>Steven Haigh<BR><A
href="http://wireless.org.au">http://wireless.org.au</A><BR>(Visit <A
href="https://wireless.org.au">https://wireless.org.au</A> to install our
Root Certificate.)</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.<BR>We
have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.<BR>I am root. If
you see me laughing, you better have a backup.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=saandss@iinet.net.au
href="mailto:saandss@iinet.net.au">Steven</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=melbwireless@wireless.org.au
href="mailto:melbwireless@wireless.org.au">melbwireless@wireless.org.au</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 01, 2003
10:35 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [MLB-WIRELESS] node names
- conventions and sub domains</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=388432623-31102003><FONT face=Arial
size=2>HI,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=388432623-31102003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=388432623-31102003><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was
wondering why since the naming convention for node is
nodeXXX.wireless.org.au or XXX.wireless.org.au (XXX=node ID) then why
not make the sub domain link to a web page on the Melbwireless web site.
For example, the address XXX.wireless.org.au could link to the wiki page
for that node. Or at least make that sub domain available for the node
owner for uploading/editing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=388432623-31102003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=388432623-31102003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is this
possible. I don't see that it would be to hard to add the sub domains or
is there a policy against this.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=388432623-31102003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=388432623-31102003><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=388432623-31102003><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Steve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=388432623-31102003></SPAN><SPAN
class=388432623-31102003><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nodeFSE</FONT></DIV>
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