[MLB-WIRELESS] Re: GLL To GLO Ta GHO

[Ryan McMullan]

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan" <mrviper at softhome.net>
To: "Melnborue" <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 1999 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Re: GLL To GLO Ta GHO


> Seroisly are we the only people that want to connect to gho? Because i
know
> alot of people who live were they cant get broadband and can easly see GHO
> all a wanna really do share broadband i mean comon not like its ganan make
> the link unusable, i think this will promote wireless groth more than a
> piontless node that everyone can see "for testing perposes". what is it
> acculy the perpose of this testing; distance? woopy i connected from 50km
> away, but id be great if i could use my 50km link.
>
> >rik said >the main reson is i dont think darren has spent all this money
> just for you
> 2 get a link with your friend when he would rather want to help a greater
> number of people.<END>
>
> Im also willing to share my broadband with mw i also spent my time setting
> up a wirelesslink that anyone can leach, ill upgrade my hardware if it
gets
> bogged down. its just like i pay for my website and dont get no money for
> it, i think melbourne wireless is for giving and sharing.
> some of you blokes ont understand were im comming from ill take a few
> pictures from my mast in 360* and then you will see what i mean by cant
> connect to someone else to create a hop. And another question with all due
> respect what did darren spen his money on? try to break the world record
for
> distance testing? Id understand more if darran would enable gho with mac
> filtering for him self and a few mates. I'm sure you guys have ya resons
for
> putting it there hopfully, some one will tell me? Are we waiting for more
> groups to stumble it then open it to selected people/groups?
> later - Ryan
>
> Please dont comment on my spelling i wrote this fast
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <andrewg at d2.net.au>
> To: <mibz at optushome.com.au>
> Cc: <mrviper at softhome.net>; <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Re: GLL To GLO Ta GHO
>
>
> > Okay, to mebe change the way Rik has said this, here is my attempt at
> > clearing things up:
> >
> > GHO-|
> >     |- mrviper
> >     |- mrviper's friend
> >     |- City
> >     |- RG Southern
> >     |- Someone who connects to 2 other people
> >
> > As we know, you don't get 11MBPS, more around like 5.5Mpbs actual.
> >
> > So, specifically on those AP connections, it is likely that you and
> > your friend will use more bandwidth, and provide no benefits to other
> > people around you, thus resulting in less usable links.
> >
> > So, looking at the positivies and negativies:
> >
> > - GHO is open to everyone:
> > Pros:
> > - It provides an easy connection method.
> > - Can go around trees, buildings.
> >
> > Cons:
> > - Having this does not promote network growth.
> > - The amount of bandwidth that can be used is significantly
> > dropped, possibly flooding off links that are useful to more
> > people than yourself and your friend.
> >
> > - GHO allows only certain connection:
> >
> > Pros:
> > - Provides more motivation for people to create links between
> > themselves and others, this in turn:
> > - Creates greater community networking. You get to know
> >   the people you are linking to.
> > - Provides for a more resilient network, which in turn
> >   provides a more usable network, for all involved.
> >
> > * motiviation in the sense of we can link eventually to a system, this
> will
> > link them to us, and vice versa. Amongst other things.
> >
> > Cons:
> > - People will say its there, and why can't they use it.
> >   or, Will inconvience people who think the amount work they
> >   did deserves use of anyones node who is trying to facilitate
> >   network growth by supplying links to people which would take
> >   longer than to happen naturally via small, consistent links.
> >
> >   This may self contridactory, however, read over it again,
> >   and think about it, and you'll find it is not.
> >
> >
> > So, with regards to more links is better for the network, lets look
> > at it this way...
> >
> > ABC - GHO
> > DEF - GHO
> > GHI - GHO
> > JKL - GHO
> > MNO - GHO
> > PQR - GHO
> > STU - GHO
> >
> > or alternatively,
> >
> >       / ABC -> DEF             [ Fear my asci art skills. Just gotta
hope
> >      /   |   \> GHI --\        [ comes out correct for everyone and the
> > MNO      |             GHO!    [ mail server doesn't break it. ;)
> >      \   STU \        /        [
> >       \       \      /
> >        \ JKL -> PQR /
> >
> > The network with more links in it is more resiliant to failure, and
> > provides more bandwidth to people.
> >
> > More bandwidth = More usable
> > More resistant to single point of failures = more usable
> >
> > So, in essence, the question can be put to you that, do you want a link
> > between yourself and your friend that relies on one node (and hence on
> > point of failure), or multiple links?
> >
> > In general, most people need to feel they are getting something out of
the
> > wireless networking to see that there is point, however, with all
networks
> > like this, it generally takes time, until you can just plug it in, and
it
> > works.
> >
> > Hope this makes things clearer,
> > Andrew Griffiths.
> >
> > P.S I am kindof in favour of special cases, depending on the needs. Oh,
> and
> > how politely the person asked :)
> >
> > > the main reson is i dont think darren has spent all this money just
for
> > > you 2 get a link with your friend when he would rather want to help a
> > > greater number of people
> > >
> > > and as i said before you have 3 other people active and 28 people
> > > intrested why not ask them for help?
> > >
> > > or, why not get $900~ and host a second AP+AMP+Waveguide(tuned to
> > > channel 1 ofcourse) then you will need a ups $100~
> > >
> > > there you go, or find someone whos intrested in wireless who you both
> > > can see and get a 140$ ap and a 80$ omni and a box and some ethernet
> > > 60$ and link up thru that location?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <mrviper at softhome.net>
> > > To: "Melbwireless" <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:27 PM
> > > Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] Re: GLL To GLO Ta GHO
> > >
> > >
> > >> SOrry to piss yas all off but....
> > >> Why cant gho allow some connections , have mac filitering or somthing
> > >> if they dont wanna get bogged down i seriously dont understand
someone
> > >> please draw a diagram :> i know its probly temp so we make most of
it?
> > >> its the only node i can probly connect to everyone else is obstucted
> > >> by trees or is to low. ive spent like heapsa me pocket money on this
> > >> $%^$ and im so frustrated, no one does anything every day im up on me
> > >> roof
> > > extending
> > >> me pole or moving it arround not yet a resualt. Feel free to send
your
> > > abuse
> > >> to me.
> > >>  - Ryan
> > >>
> >
> > [ snip ]
> >
> > >> > We got zebra going between node FUS and FZJ last night.
> > >> > DCH and FNZ will be configuring it today.
> > >> >
> > >> > Innernorth > *
> > >> >
> >
> > Hey, didn't I supply help? so that means,
> >
> > Southern > Innernorth > *
> >
> > Because without the southern group, there wouldn't be me (chances are)
and
> > poissibly less ospf stuff :)
> >
> > :. Southern Rules.
> >
> > >> > <RANT>
> > >> > ARRRG QUOTED MATERIAL ABOVE YOUR RESPONSCES PEOPLE.
> > >> >
> > >> > and trim it.
> > >> > </RANT>
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Grant Diffey aka "nevyn"
> >
> > Agreed, its damn annoying. :)
> >
> > Specially those signatures which are 70% of the persons contribution (I
> > have a feeling the other mail didn't arrive now ;))
> >
> > - andrewg
> >
> >
> >
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