[mesh] Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Here comes the pain...

[Matthew.C.Boyd at uts.edu.au]

At 03:01 PM 21/09/02 +1000, Ryan Abbenhuys wrote:
>Personally, and I think there's probably others who feel the same way, I
>wouldn't want a wireless ISP 5km's away using me to jump to another node
>another 10km's away.  They're a business, making money, where I'm a
>hobbiest, who's invested a lot of money in a lot of nerdy equipment.  And
>unless they're prepared to pay me a few thousand dollars per anum I wouldn't
>want them using me for profit.

Please take this in a non sarcastic manner,... if I was an ISP  wouldn't 
want to be servicing my clients through some guy who had no obligation to 
leave his node running and was constantly downing his router to play with a 
new toy.
Lotsa problems with this idea, I know.

Matt



>----- Original Message -----
>
>To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
>Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:31 AM
>Subject: Re: [mesh] Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Here comes the pain...
>
>
> > Someones probably already said this, hell maybe I've mentioned it...
> > but...
> > What are the restraints on us approaching people who set up wireless
> > networks, be they ISPs or some other scumbags and proposing a standard ip
> > allocation scheme (probably more easily workable with ipv6, but not
> > impossible with the constraints we have on our ipv4 stuff), a standardised
> > routing setup and a standard essid, the advantage being that a wireless
>ISP
> > or company wanting to provide access to its network over a larger area
> > wouldn't have to worry excessively about the infrastructure cost. The
> > advantage to us being that we get a larger range of services on the
> > wireless network and more active nodes.
> >
> > If you wanted to use a wireless ISP then you'd just need to set up an
>ipsec
> > tunnel to the nearest gateway out to the net. If you wanted to access the
> > computer at work, ipsec tunnels once again, or whatever else becomes
>available.
> >
> > Basically its the mesh idea, using the increased wireless traffic / node
> > density to increase bandwidth rather that complaining about the noise. We
> > could use the subscription thing with Melbwireless that was discussed a
> > while ago to make it legal for people to use it for net access.
> >
> > I can see a number of problems with this idea, number 1 being that you'd
> > have to convince people that we had the capabilities to support the
> > network, the next that it's in their interest, is it legal, people using
> > the network would want to have some say in how it was run. Is there
> > anything that stops us from letting companies join melbwireless, some sort
> > of corporate membership, or could we start up something along the lines of
> > a standards body to promote our scheme? Having said this, is it worthwhile
> > to work through these (and all the other) problems.
> >
> > Matt


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