[MLB-WIRELESS] Re: [WG-Routing] IP allocation questions / help

[James Healy]

Think of it like the internet.

ISPs/companies/geeks are able to pay/request/lease a globally routable
IP space, and what they do with them, or how they setup their network
it is up to them - provided you dont do anything that screws with
other peoples settings or traffic.

Same thing applies for MelbWireless. We have a system where you can
request unique IP(s) for yourself, and do with them what you will.

What we now need is some sort of robust system/guidelines to make sure
we only assign IPs to people that need them. hell... i wrote the
bloody software that hands em out, and requested a 10.10 block
straight away... but once i thought about, i realised i have no need
for one, so i plan to drop and and make it available for someone
else...

I'm open to suggestions...

James

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> [mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au]On Behalf Of Matt Pearce
> Sent: Sunday, 22 December 2002 3:16 PM
> To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Re: [WG-Routing] IP allocation
> questions /
> help
>
>
> I would personally like to steer well clear of anthing that
> comes close to
> NAT, NAT is a sheer pain in the neck and trying to
> configure other services
> to make up for lack of end to end connectivity is proving
> to be rather a
> nightmare in itself (read I am currently trying to get MSN
> messenger fully
> functional with NAT and socks5 proxy).  Although I am no
> expert on these
> matters I am starting to really look hard at the viability
> of getting IPv6
> running here although from what I have seen it presently
> wont fix some of
> the problems I have until it is adopted on a much larger scale.
>
> Just my 2 cents plus a little more.
>
> Matt.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt" <matthew.c.boyd at uts.edu.au>
> To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>; <wgrouting at wireless.org.au>
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Re: [WG-Routing] IP allocation
> questions / help
>
>
> > At 09:20 AM 12/22/2002 +1100, andrewg at d2.net.au wrote:
> > >  Yo All
> > > >
> > > > Why would we have to change our 192.168.x.x address's
> not like they
> > > > would be seen from da out side world or the mw world ???
> >
> > Depends, do you want to run a games server, maybe a nifty
> webcam of your
> > backyard or fishtank? (all nicely secured of course).
> Granted people have
> > the right to configure their network any way the see fit,
> but like Andrew
> > said, it breaks the end to end bit.
> >
> > >You don't have to. You could use NAT, but the biggest
> thing against it
> > >would be:
> > >
> > >- Because NAT breaks the end to end host functionality
> the Internet was
> > >built upon. It wasn't designed to have NAT and so on.
> >
> > Thats what I was trying to say, if I want to say access
> my internet
> > connection thats on the other side of a nat'd connection
> while I'm mobile,
> > down the street, using something like ipsec (over a
> couple of melbwireless
> > hops back home), I'm stuffed, ipsec doesn't work through
> nat (afaik) and
> > I'm not going to put my internet connection on the same
> machine as my
> > melbwireless node.
> >
> > >Okay, I think I'll use this as an announcement place ;)
> I'm currently
> > >entertaining the idea of using zebra's prefix filtering
> to help ensure
> > >bogus routes don't propagate (eg. misguied people
> advertising !(Backbone
> or
> > >host) networks) in the linux routing distro by default.
> I'll put up a
> wiki
> > >page RSN after testing it and confirming it works.
> Comments anyone?
> >
> > I think we are going to have to use this, there's bound
> to be someone who
> > misconfigures their routes addresses etc and ends up
> filling the routing
> > tables with gheyness, so we might as well implement it
> from the start.
> When
> > we were testing the ospf stuff we said a few times that
> filtering would be
> > necessary.
> >
> > P.S Its early, and I've only started on my coffee.
> > mmmm coffeee.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
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