[MLB-WIRELESS] Help... I'm Lost

Nick Sibbing Nick.Sibbing at arts.monash.edu.au
Tue Nov 28 14:42:16 EST 2006


Gday Mark
when I had a similar problem Ian Donaldson kindly helped me out
email quoted below.
And Craig Ambrose provided a link to an automatic calculator (which I 
think is now replicated on the MW site)

 >And for the really unmathmatical, you can just wack you
 >degrees/minutes/seconds value into a converter web page like this one:

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/DDDMMSS-decimal.html


Regards Nick

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] New Node Coordinates?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:00:15 +1000
From: Nick Sibbing <nick.sibbing at arts.monash.edu.au>
Reply-To: nick.sibbing at arts.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University
CC: melbwireless at wireless.org.au <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
References: <408F431E.92BB4D83 at arts.monash.edu.au> 
<200404281617.22480.ian at myinternet.com.au>

Ian you are a scholar and a gentleman thanks very much I'm back in leafy
Warranwood all is good

so for the less mathematical of us you need to divide the first 2
figures after the degrees (minutes) by 60 and then divide the 2nd 2
figures by 3600 and add those 2 decimals together and put them after the
whole degrees.

This worked for me but no wonder there were a few confused nodes out
with me in the middle of nowhere. Maybe a summary of this email could be
added to the add node page?

Regards Nick Sibbing


Ian Donaldson wrote:
 >
 > Nick,
 >
 > There are a couple of ways of expressing co-ordinates, but they are
 > variations on either degrees, minutes, seconds, or decimal notation. 
There
 > are 60 minutes in each degree and 60 seconds in each minute, just like
 > time.
 >
 > When it is written degrees, minutes, seconds as below:
 >
 > 37 46' 03" S
 >
 > It is actually saying that the co-ordinate is 37 degrees + 46/60 of a 
degree
 > + 3/60 of a minute (or 3/3600 of a degree).
 >
 > So in decimal notation it is 37 + 0.766666.. + 0.000833333... or 37.7675
 > degrees.
 >
 > Just to be painful, sometimes people write co-ordinates as degrees, 
minutes,
 > but seconds in decimal, e.g. 36 46.05' S.
 >
 > Oh, and sometimes the "N E S W" comes before the co-ordinate rather than
 > after.
 >
 > Converting from a decimal back to degrees, minutes seconds is relatively
 > straightforward, e.g. 37.7675, write "37" and subtract 37, leaving .7675.
 > Multiply that by 60, giving 46.05. Write "46'" and subtract it, leaving
 > 0.05. Multiply that by 60, giving 3, which is your seconds '03"'.
 >
 > Ian
 >
 > On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 03:37 pm, Nick Sibbing wrote:
 > > Just added a new node for a mate in Kerry Rd Warranwood but something
 > > isn't quite right with the coordinates. Locfinder shows him to be 43 km
 > > from my place in Montrose (should be about 10-12)
 > >
 > > I found the block on Vic MAp ok and the coordinates in the status bar
 > > are
 > > 37 46' 03" S and 145 15' 42" E
 > >
 > > I checked another node in Warranwood BEA and they show Lat -37.7694 
Long
 > > 145.2407
 > >
 > > so this looks good and my theory is that the lat/long is made up of the
 > > figures from the status bar  with a dot after the  forst 2 and the 
other
 > > 4 concatenated.
 > >
 > > Problem is most other nodes have a 7 digit figure rather than 6 and 
when
 > > I add the node it ends up in the middle of nowhere. I can't tell from
 > > the map but there aren't any roads and ther seem to be a few other
 > > confused nodes out there as well eg Box Hill and Scoresby nodes. At
 > > least I'm in Vic as it warns for non vic locations but its a bit 
lonely.
 > >
 > > So if anyone can shed any light on what my correct coordinates are that
 > > would be great and it might  help someone else to add it to the create
 > > node page.
 > >
 > > Regards Nick Sibbing
 > >
 > > To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo at wireless.org.au
 > > with "unsubscribe melbwireless" in the body of the message
 >
 > --
 > Ian Donaldson, SA @ MI                       -- ian at myinternet.com.au

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-- 
Kind Regards
Nick Sibbing
PSI Web Coordinator
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] New Node Coordinates?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:00:15 +1000
From: Nick Sibbing <nick.sibbing at arts.monash.edu.au>
Reply-To: nick.sibbing at arts.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University
CC: melbwireless at wireless.org.au <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
References: <408F431E.92BB4D83 at arts.monash.edu.au> 
<200404281617.22480.ian at myinternet.com.au>

Ian you are a scholar and a gentleman thanks very much I'm back in leafy
Warranwood all is good

so for the less mathematical of us you need to divide the first 2
figures after the degrees (minutes) by 60 and then divide the 2nd 2
figures by 3600 and add those 2 decimals together and put them after the
whole degrees.

This worked for me but no wonder there were a few confused nodes out
with me in the middle of nowhere. Maybe a summary of this email could be
added to the add node page?

Regards Nick Sibbing


Ian Donaldson wrote:
 >
 > Nick,
 >
 > There are a couple of ways of expressing co-ordinates, but they are
 > variations on either degrees, minutes, seconds, or decimal notation. 
There
 > are 60 minutes in each degree and 60 seconds in each minute, just like
 > time.
 >
 > When it is written degrees, minutes, seconds as below:
 >
 > 37 46' 03" S
 >
 > It is actually saying that the co-ordinate is 37 degrees + 46/60 of a 
degree
 > + 3/60 of a minute (or 3/3600 of a degree).
 >
 > So in decimal notation it is 37 + 0.766666.. + 0.000833333... or 37.7675
 > degrees.
 >
 > Just to be painful, sometimes people write co-ordinates as degrees, 
minutes,
 > but seconds in decimal, e.g. 36 46.05' S.
 >
 > Oh, and sometimes the "N E S W" comes before the co-ordinate rather than
 > after.
 >
 > Converting from a decimal back to degrees, minutes seconds is relatively
 > straightforward, e.g. 37.7675, write "37" and subtract 37, leaving .7675.
 > Multiply that by 60, giving 46.05. Write "46'" and subtract it, leaving
 > 0.05. Multiply that by 60, giving 3, which is your seconds '03"'.
 >
 > Ian
 >
 > On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 03:37 pm, Nick Sibbing wrote:
 > > Just added a new node for a mate in Kerry Rd Warranwood but something
 > > isn't quite right with the coordinates. Locfinder shows him to be 43 km
 > > from my place in Montrose (should be about 10-12)
 > >
 > > I found the block on Vic MAp ok and the coordinates in the status bar
 > > are
 > > 37 46' 03" S and 145 15' 42" E
 > >
 > > I checked another node in Warranwood BEA and they show Lat -37.7694 
Long
 > > 145.2407
 > >
 > > so this looks good and my theory is that the lat/long is made up of the
 > > figures from the status bar  with a dot after the  forst 2 and the 
other
 > > 4 concatenated.
 > >
 > > Problem is most other nodes have a 7 digit figure rather than 6 and 
when
 > > I add the node it ends up in the middle of nowhere. I can't tell from
 > > the map but there aren't any roads and ther seem to be a few other
 > > confused nodes out there as well eg Box Hill and Scoresby nodes. At
 > > least I'm in Vic as it warns for non vic locations but its a bit 
lonely.
 > >
 > > So if anyone can shed any light on what my correct coordinates are that
 > > would be great and it might  help someone else to add it to the create
 > > node page.
 > >
 > > Regards Nick Sibbing
 > >
 > > To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo at wireless.org.au
 > > with "unsubscribe melbwireless" in the body of the message
 >
 > --
 > Ian Donaldson, SA @ MI                       -- ian at myinternet.com.au

To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo at wireless.org.au
with "unsubscribe melbwireless" in the body of the message



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Kind Regards
Nick Sibbing
PSI Web CoordinatorPeter Buncle wrote:

> Try this link,
>  
> http://www.melbourne.wireless.org.au/maps/clickmaps/800x800clickmap2-6.p
> hp?id=hvc
> <http://www.melbourne.wireless.org.au/maps/clickmaps/800x800clickmap2-6.
> php?id=hvc&zoom=-2> &zoom=-2
>  
>  
> It'll take you to a map where you can click on it to move around.
>  
> The coordinates (mw style) are on the right hand column.
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Peter
> Webmaster
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Gregson [mailto:gregsonm at aanet.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2006 11:29 AM
> To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] Help... I'm Lost
> 
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
>  
> 
> I've managed to mess up my GPS coordinates for my node in the Melbourne
> Wireless website.
> 
>  
> 
> I would appreciate if someone can tell me how I convert these
> coordinates into lingo that the Melbourne Wireless website will
> understand.
> 
>  
> 
> 37?52'57.00"S
> 
>  
> 
> 144?44'42.34"E
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Mark Gregson
> 
> 
> 
> Mobile:              +61 407 040 330
> 
> Email:               gregsonm at aanet.com.au
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Kind Regards
Nick Sibbing
PSI Web Coordinator



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