[MLB-WIRELESS] infrastructure thoughts

[Simon Hall]

Sorry I should have made myself a bit clearer. I was meaning that using 
strategic points throughout the Met rail netowork could give us a useful 
core structure to build on.  Like I have said earlier I have not been 
following things too closlely in the past 3 years as I have been in the UK 
so if plans for a decent core network are already set in concrete then point 
me in the right direction.

On another note, would tunneling through peoples broadband be out of the 
question to connect remote links?  Simple VPN I suppose, but isn't there 
some sort of encapsulation that you can use.  For the life of me I can't 
remember what it is.  I remember some people talking about it when they were 
thinking of putting in a POP in London (we were based in Edinburgh).

I think I am blethering now, but I have a few other suggestions.  Would 
utilizing BGP be any good for a Mesh scenario? and Has anyone investigated 
Solar/battery for running their AP.  My current location is going to make it 
difficult for me to get out anywhere so I was thinking of investing in some 
more equipment and asking someone nicely who lives up on the big hill near 
Beaconsfield to let me put a node at their place.

Cheers and thanks for listening
Simon Hall
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Haigh" <netwiz at crc.id.au>
To: "Simon Hall" <simon.hall at getstarted.com.au>
Cc: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] infrastructure thoughts


> While this is a great idea for the use of wireless technology,  however 
> not what Melbourne Wireless as a group should be looking at.  We want to 
> make it clear that we are not a Service Provider, we are  not an ISP, we 
> are not an Infrastructure Provider.
>
> As a group, Melbourne Wireless is not about anything commercial, and 
> there is no way we can offer any level of service guarantees. This is 
> quite fine because we want to be a community organisation - and not a 
> commercial entity. While it would be great to see free wireless  internet 
> access on all trains across Australia, it is not the place  for Melbourne 
> Wireless to be involved.
>
> This being said, I will gladly help you, your friends, your  neighbours, 
> and anyone else get their own gear up and running and be  part of the 
> community network that Melbourne Wireless is collectively  building.
>
> You are correct, places like MetRail (or what was MetRail) have a  huge 
> infrastructure - and usually long runs of fibre along their  tracks! - 
> however they frown on giving away access to their  infrastructure when 
> they charge lots of money to other companies. If  they did offer it 
> however, I'm sure we'd jump at the chance to put  gear in strategic 
> locations.
>
> On 09/11/2005, at 5:10 PM, Simon Hall wrote:
>
>> Well theres a plan. Incidently Virgin trains in the UK provide  wireless 
>> internet...FREE on their trains.  Great idea.  Just wish I  spent more 
>> time on them when I was there.  I suppose you could sell  it to them like 
>> "Well they do it in the UK and you wanted fast  trians like them.  Why 
>> not put wireless on them too?"
>>
>> Cheers
>> Simon Hall
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Hall" 
>> <simon.hall at getstarted.com.au>
>> To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:21 PM
>> Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] infrastructure thoughts
>>
>>
>>> Not sure if this has been mentioned and I really don't know the  pros 
>>> and cons, but could using the Met Railway infrastructure be a  means of 
>>> extending the network.  I know out at Beaconsfield they  have a rather 
>>> large tower with antennas on already.  Not sure what  they are used for. 
>>> I think quiet a few of the railway stations  have some form of antenna 
>>> mast. Anyway just an idea any comments
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Simon Hall
>>
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