[MLB-WIRELESS] Commercial use of MW network

rick mibz at optushome.com.au
Thu Mar 4 21:07:04 EST 2004


from what i understand as well which has been coverd is if we let people use
it and they are a profit making company, then we get fined a stupid amount
of money or we get a carrier licence for 10k per year which we lose as soon
as someone sends pirated files or goes to 4.01 watts

im not putting cash towards a carrier licence and if a vpn tunnel went thru
my link for a commercial gain company then i would start up a community
wireless group in melbourne like the one i thought i was already in

Community wireless, lets keep it for the community

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au]On Behalf Of Winder
Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2004 5:24 PM
To: 'Melbourne Wireless'
Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Commercial use of MW network


So from what I have read in the many posts, a company cannot use the
Melbourne Wireless network to avoide the expense of a commercial carrier. To
do so is against the law, even if no money or services change hands.

 However I would this also extend to a business having a node connected to
the wireless network, and say run a web server to peddle their wares (just a
node, not a VPN link to another location). I would expect that this should
be ok, and even encouraged?

Regards,
g at z.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au]On Behalf Of Dan Flett
Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2004 5:08 PM
To: 'Tim W'
Cc: 'Melbourne Wireless'
Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Commercial use of MW network


If you asked for payment, you would definitely need a carrier licence,
no question.  What I was getting at is that under the principle of a
free network, you could use the company's network equipment for free in
exchange for letting them use yours for free.  As it turns out, and as
it has been pointed out the law does indeed *not* allow this.  I guess
it pays to read the fine print. :)  More about that in my next post...

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au [mailto:owner-
> melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Tim W
> Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2004 13:39
> To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Commercial use of MW network
>
> Oh yeah, I forgot one.....
>
> Wouldn't every node owner/operator on the path of a business link have
a
> right to demand paymeny in lieu of time and money spent building and
> maintaining the "business' " link. Afterall, the business would be
> making/saving money by using the network and maintainers/owners of the
> network would, by proxy, become employees
>
> There goes the free network......

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