[MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) ( anyone else get this? )

rik mibz at optushome.com.au
Tue Jan 14 01:35:28 EST 2003


thanks for the poliet way you went about telling me i knew nothing about
email, i wish there was more people like you in melbourne wireless, i use
other group mail systems such as sorceforge and egroups (now yahoogroups)
and they seam to get it working, so maybe before just throwing a bunch of
tech talk at me trying to demean me in a insulting manor you could have
polietly sent it to me off list, instead of just hitting reply to all and
filling my inbox with your witty reply twice

----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Sanders" <cas at taz.net.au>
To: "rik" <mibz at optushome.com.au>
Cc: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) (
anyone else get this? )


> On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 08:03:12PM +1100, rik wrote:
> > Anyone else get this?
>
> yes. i got one too.
>
> > can the way emails are sent be changed ie mw in the from box and and
> > the cc having the person who posted the message?
>
> no, because that would be broken.  dealing with broken-ness by breaking
> other things is never a good idea.  it's also a really bad idea to
> diagnose mail faults and prescribe solutions when you don't have a
> thorough understanding of how mail and mailing lists work.
>
> SMTP message headers such as From:, To:, Cc: are *NOT* delivery
> instructions, they are *comments* only. they are data, not envelope. any
> MTA that regards them as delivery instructions is broken beyond
> redemption.
>
>
> it wouldn't make any difference in this case anyway because it wasn't
> the problem.   the message got bounced to you, but the From header
> didn't mention your address at all.
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: <postmaster at team.telstra.com>
> > To: <mibz at optushome.com.au>
> > [...]
>
> the bounce gets sent To your address...
>
> > From: "" Robert Farrar " \(via GeckoMail\)"
<return-gfg687472609-robert-.-secnet.com.au at geckomail.org>
> > To: <andrewh at uglybugger.org>
> > Cc: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
>
> but there is no mention of your address in any of the headers.
>
>
>
> craig
>
> --
> craig sanders <cas at taz.net.au>
>
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