[MLB-WIRELESS] FW: [Syd-Wireless] [Wireless] Bandwidth Proposal/Structured networks Article (fwd)

Ben Anderson a_neb at optushome.com.au
Mon Feb 3 15:35:58 EST 2003


Oh... my...god...

How much effort does one go to to get such a simple concept across *lol*

That solution likely won't scale as the person who's owning each umbrella is
talking probably 500-1000 bucks to supply service to people around them..
the number of people willing to make this sort of committment to a community
project so far has been lacking, what makes you think it'll improve?

We need a dynamic fine-grained mesh capable software layer (doesn't exist
currently)...  We also then need a QoS layer to distribute the bandwidth
available in not only a fair way, but in a way that encourages people to add
more bandwidth to the mesh (yes, basically $ for service - more bandwidth
you supply to the mesh, better access you get).  Leaf node leechers are
totally welcome, however due to the QoS, people who supply nothing, and suck
down bandwidth can't reduce the service level of the network to sub-modem
speeds for people who supply bandwidth to the mesh.

The problems even worse than the calculations he makes, as CSMA/CD with
point to multi-point like that will make the medium almost unusable as it
approaches around 70% saturation (I'm guessing it's even less than this --
this number is for 10mbit wired csma/cd lan's).

Every time I've pointed out these problems, and suggested a solution that
will scale, I wind up with monkeys jumping up and down yelling "we want it
free, ugga bugga" beating their chests, etc.  If you are feeling excitable
and hairy, >/dev/null...  Feel free to email me directly if you're not one
of these monkeys, and the list becomes monkey-saturated...

Live long and prosper,
Ben.

>
> below is an email from the Tassie list, with a link to a proposal on how
to
> structure a wireless MAN.
>
> Just f00d for thought..
>
> James
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:16:03 +1100 (EST)
> From: David Hall <dhall1 at ids.org.au>
> To: wireless at tas.air.net.au
> Subject: [Wireless] Bandwidth Proposal/Structured networks Article
>
> It's been a while since there has been some serious wireless discussion,
> and now that Net Fish has had the time to upload a little proposal I have
> written to help reduce the bandwidth limitations of wireless, I would be
> interested to see what others think and hear some constructive criticism.
>
> You can read the proposal/article here:
> http://tas.air.net.au/tech/bandwidth.htm
>
> And I have made a new forum topic here for your replies:
> http://forums.tas.air.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?p=101#101
>
> hallz
> David Hall
> dhall1 at ids.org.au
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