[MLB-WIRELESS] HardwareZ... & discussion of legalities etc....

Rowan Wainwright-Smith Rowan at teleaudit.com
Tue Oct 29 15:55:42 EST 2002

OK everyone....


I, for one, am sick of the ENTIRE thread. I feel sure that others are, too.

however, I would like to add a few points....

1)    in reference to e-mail formats... every single one of my e-mails 
is dual formatted, so if you have a HTML mail client great... you get to 
see the pretty stuff... if not too bad, but you CAN still read it quite 
happily. and I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN about e-mail formats or ANY 
discussions regarding the pros and cons of different formats. I have not 
had a single complaint about my e-mails being unreadable, so.... if it 
ain't broke dont fix it....

2)    to Shaun, John Teh has NO OFFICIAL role in MW,  as a current 
committe member, I would know if he did.

3)    to John Teh, I like about 99.9% of the rest of the list don't want 
to hear petty bickering and poorly constructed, negative criticism of 
anyone on this list. If Shaun wishes to advertise some equipment that is 
up to him, especially as the equipment in question is ideal for a small 
router node or similar purpose. If you do not have CONSTRUCTIVE advice 
or comments to offer, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. If you have a GENUINE 
concern of the legality of anything that is for sale, ask POLITELY, OFF 
LIST, and i feel sure that your question will be answered in kind. No 
one is above critisism, but some of the comments that you have offered 
today are simply derogatory and nasty, not to mention implying a large 
amount of dishonesty on Shauns part. None of these actions are, or will 
ever be condoned by MW.

4)    to Shaun, a small suggestion, next time you advertise a system 
(should you desire to) please include comments about the OS (i.e. OEM etc)

5)    To all who raised questions on MS licencing issues. MS Licences 
ARE transferable, under certain circumstances. Go read your licence 
agreements REALLY carefully and you will find a section entitled 

"You may permanently transfer all of your rights under this EULA only as 
part of a sale or transfer of HARDWARE, provided you retain no copies, 
you transfer all of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT (including all component parts, 
the media and printer materails and upgrades, this EULA and if 
applicable, the Certificate(s) of Authenticity), and the recipient 
agrees to the terms of the EULA. If the SOFTWARE PRODUCT is an upgrade, 
and transfer must include all prior versions fo the SOFTWARE PRODUCT."

Capitalisation as per the document. This came from a current Win 98 
EULA, the Win ME, WinNT , W2K and WinXP EULA's all contain the same 
clause. Of course, in the next paragraph of the EULA, MS goes on to 
state that it reserves the right to terminate and any all rights to use 
the software at it's discretion IF you fail to adhere to the EULA.


Rowan Wainwright-Smith
MW Committee Member



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