[MLB-WIRELESS] Re: Node x is over this way -was- Applications

[Drew]

Ben Anderson wrote:

>>>>example - problem: bandwidth congestion
>>>>how does mojo attempt to solve this? by creating a class system where
>>>>those with more links get more mojo, while those on the outskirts, or
>>>>those who cant afford to put 5 cards and 5 antenna on their roofs are
>>>>penalized by the system. so how could those people gain more mojo? by
>>>>sending more traffic. thus actually increasing the amount of traffic on
>>>>the network, as these people try to earn "credits" so they can download.
>>>>mojo is like a ratio FTP site, but part of the network, instead of just
>>>>some horrible idea on a ftpd.
>>>>
>>>I agree, horrible idea on an ftpd.
>>>
>>and on a freenet
>>
>
>_Why_ is it so bad?
>

why do i feel we're going in circles?

>>>And implemented 'nastily' it'd make the
>>>network suck.  I'm proposing using the mojo only to give people the
>>>
>ability
>
>>>to get low-latency access to the network.
>>>
>>at the expense of everyone else
>>
>
>Of course.  I think this is better than allowing leaf-nodes to fully
>saturate the bandwidth of the network trading mp3's, movies, wares or porn
>(not that this content has anything inherantly wrong with it as data), just
>that it DoS's the low-latency people.  Some tradeoff has to be made.  Why is
>your tradeoff in the direction of 'good for leechs' (which is inherantly bad
>for network scalability, as it encourages people away from taking
>responsibilty for addint to the network infrastructure, and secondly,
>encourages altrustic people who do provide infrastructure to provide less
>infrastructure as people complain about shit access) better than my tradeoff
>that allows low latency traffic in exact proportion with the networks
>capability to carry it?
>

My tradeoff is good for everyone. I would rather solve the congestion by 
increasing links and link bandwidth. You would rather solve the problem 
by capping/throttling/limiting bandwidth. My way the network expands 
rapidly, your way it shrivels and dies, and people go back to Telstra, 
who suddenly don't seem so evil.

ive snipped the rest as its all been said before, lets take this off 
list and make a wiki page or something if you want to continue.

-Drew



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