FW: [MLB-WIRELESS] Dedicated AP hardware vs PC + card

Jay Fajardo jfajardo at digitelone.com
Wed Oct 31 02:13:25 EST 2001


Let me check that one out.

Thanks,

Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bailey [mailto:mbailey at enternet.com.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 9:01 PM
To: Jay Fajardo
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Dedicated AP hardware vs PC + card


Have you tried www.hyperlinktech.com for the antenna? I have some and am
quite happy with them.

cheers,

Mike


 On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 04:38:42PM +0800, Jay Fajardo wrote:
> Filipino, born and bred.
> 
> I read Cryptonomicon a year ago way before I got into 802.11. But I 
> read it for the cryptography ;-)
> 
> You are right on. Most of my stuff I try to order from the US which is

> a whole lot cheaper. I know what you mean about the AUS prices from 
> what I've seen on this list. But you do have much more gear floating 
> around to work with.
> 
> Can't even get myself a decent antenna rated for 2.4ghz.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jay
> 
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Michael Bailey [mailto:mbailey at enternet.com.au]
> |Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:00 PM
> |To: Jay Fajardo
> |Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Dedicated AP hardware vs PC + card
> |
> |
> |You're in Manila? Wow. Australian?
> |
> |Have you read Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson? You must if
> |you're into wireless and the Philipines...
> |
> |Are you getting stuff from the U.S.? It's probably way
> |cheaper. Even Australian prices are through the roof.
> |
> |chheers,
> |
> |Mike
> |
> |On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 11:01:44AM +0800, Jay Fajardo wrote:
> |> First time to actively post here...
> |> 
> |> My opinion is that both approaches have advantages and 
> |> disadvantages.
> |> 
> |> A PC + card approach, depending on the card, would be more
> |flexible to
> |> antenna modifications. It would also give you more
> |flexibility on the
> |> OS and the software which may be important if network
> |> authentication/security is an issue. And if you put it on a 
> |self-built
> |> desktop, it would be definitely cheaper loaded with IP routing
> |> software.
> |> 
> |> An AP though most definitely reduces the "mucking about" factor. 
> |> But
> |> from my experience with a DWL1000AP, antenna mods are 
> |difficult since
> |> it's got an internal diversity antenna which is fixed. You'd have 
> |> to
> |> fool around with the main board and the solders are 
> |unmanageably tiny.
> |> The external flexible antenna though can be yanked out
> |revealing a TNC
> |> socket. An external antenna is definitely a must as the
> |signal is very
> |> weak.
> |> 
> |> But tha package is small and light and I believe can run 24x7. I'm
> |> wary though about the power adaptro which really heats up. A 
> |PC would
> |> have some kind of fan but consume more power.
> |> 
> |> I'm tempted to get a Linksys Wap11 which boasts of a
> |stronger antenna
> |> pair and perhaps a higher power output.
> |> 
> |> It is next to impossible though to get equipment here in Manila
> |> quickly as the local dists make the AP's very expensive.
> |> 
> |> |-----Original Message-----
> |> |From: Joe.Parry at nt.gov.au [mailto:Joe.Parry at nt.gov.au]
> |> |Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:23 AM
> |> |To: melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org
> |> |Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] Dedicated AP hardware vs PC + card
> |> |
> |> |
> |> |
> |> |
> |> |Opinions time:
> |> |
> |> |What is better, getting a dedicated piece of hardware for an 
> |> |Access point (Apple
> |> |Airport?) or setting up a PC (In this case, an old digital
> |> |laptop picked up from auction (260$, wot a bargain!) with a 
> |> |wireless card + normal network card in the PCMCIA slots).
> |> |
> |> |Price is not really an issue, but as my node will be the centre of

> |> |a star topography type wireless LAN, the thing will have to be 
> |> |running 24/7 and be reliable so Im thinking that a
> |> |wireless router would be better than a PC (Less muckin around 
> |> |with installing and maintain linux/windoze software, less 
> |> |sadness when lighting strikes cooks what's on the end of the 
> |> |wire). I must admit Im tempted to buy a wireless router for 
> |> |the 'toy' value alone.
> |> |
> |> |So, whose had experience with wireless routers? What have you got 
> |> |and how hard was it to plonk an antenna on it? Was it worth the 
> |> |extra  bucks? Am I correct in calling these things wireless 
> |> |routers? :)
> |> |
> |> |Cheers
> |> |
> |> |Joe Parry
> |> |
> |> |PS: Saw this on Toms Hardware
> |> |(http://www4.tomshardware.com/technews/technews-20011024.html#0
> |> |621)  Does anyone know if these products are available in Aus?
> |> |The Wireless Cable/DSL Router looks most tasty.
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