<div dir="ltr">Seems to be behaving sensibly today, did you do anything or did it sort itself out?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Daurnimator <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quae@daurnimator.com" target="_blank">quae@daurnimator.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yeah I found the site sometimes breaks like that.<br>
I re-imported the tower data: that seemed to fix it (possibly only<br>
temporarily?).<br>
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On 2 January 2017 at 19:28, Morgan Reed <<a href="mailto:morgan.s.reed@gmail.com">morgan.s.reed@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> One oddity I'm noticing, I've got a lot of nodes on which the profile looks<br>
> 100% clear (nothing at all in the Fresnel zone), but the connection is shown<br>
> as <100% (and in several cases 0%, so fully obstructed).<br>
><br>
> Is it looking at something in addition to what's shown in the profile?<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Morgan Reed <<a href="mailto:morgan.s.reed@gmail.com">morgan.s.reed@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> That's WAY nicer than what I found elsewhere on their site, thanks.<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Daurnimator <<a href="mailto:quae@daurnimator.com">quae@daurnimator.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> We also have a shared 'wisp' account for <a href="http://wisp.heywhatsthat.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wisp.heywhatsthat.com/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> I'll email you some creds off-list.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 2 January 2017 at 17:49, Morgan Reed <<a href="mailto:morgan.s.reed@gmail.com">morgan.s.reed@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> > Ah, I presume you mean this;<br>
>>> > <a href="http://www.heywhatsthat.com/profiler.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.heywhatsthat.com/<wbr>profiler.html</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I feel less bad about how ugly my tool is now ;)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Morgan Reed <<a href="mailto:morgan.s.reed@gmail.com">morgan.s.reed@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> > wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Rummaged around the website a bit only thing I've found is broken<br>
>>> >> links,<br>
>>> >> care to point me in the right direction?<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Morgan Reed <<a href="mailto:morgan.s.reed@gmail.com">morgan.s.reed@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >> wrote:<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> Would've been nice if I'd have found that yesterday...<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Mitch Kelly <<a href="mailto:mitchkelly24@gmail.com">mitchkelly24@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> The hey what's that path profiler does all of that and more<br>
>>> >>>> including<br>
>>> >>>> frequency and fresnel zone<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> On 2 Jan 2017 2:02 PM, "Morgan Reed" <<a href="mailto:morgan.s.reed@gmail.com">morgan.s.reed@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> >>>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> Hi All,<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> I was a MW member some many (10+) years ago, but never<br>
>>> >>>>> actually<br>
>>> >>>>> got around to doing anything about setting up a node (Partially<br>
>>> >>>>> lack of<br>
>>> >>>>> funds, but mostly because there wasn't anything in LOS from that<br>
>>> >>>>> place.)<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> Many years on, the other day I was reminded by the DuxTel website<br>
>>> >>>>> that<br>
>>> >>>>> MW exists. Figured I'd stick my head back in, though I'm not sure<br>
>>> >>>>> how much<br>
>>> >>>>> activity there is in the community these days (the Website and<br>
>>> >>>>> Mailing List<br>
>>> >>>>> archives seem to suggest it's a bit of a ghost town).<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> In anticipation of perhaps finally setting up a node I did some<br>
>>> >>>>> rummaging around to try to determine what nodes were within LOS<br>
>>> >>>>> from my<br>
>>> >>>>> current location, after an initial aborted attempt with Google<br>
>>> >>>>> Earth<br>
>>> >>>>> (seriously, who the hell implements a pathing function which<br>
>>> >>>>> DOESN'T snap to<br>
>>> >>>>> markers, oh and the elevation profile of a path ignores the<br>
>>> >>>>> elevation of the<br>
>>> >>>>> coordinates provided...), I spent a bit of time cooking this up<br>
>>> >>>>> today;<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> <a href="https://tools.darkglade.com/mwLos/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tools.darkglade.com/<wbr>mwLos/</a><br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> It's pretty ugly and the code is horrible (I might fix it one day),<br>
>>> >>>>> but<br>
>>> >>>>> it pretty much works.<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> The only nodes it loads automagically are the ones in the Geelong<br>
>>> >>>>> region because that's where I live (if somebody wants to give me a<br>
>>> >>>>> full list<br>
>>> >>>>> of the active nodes, ideally in this format<br>
>>> >>>>> <a href="https://tools.darkglade.com/mwLos/nodes.json" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tools.darkglade.com/<wbr>mwLos/nodes.json</a> (or access to a<br>
>>> >>>>> database that<br>
>>> >>>>> has the data in it) I'll happily stuff that in the back).<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> The chart down the bottom shows LOS (red), actual ground level<br>
>>> >>>>> elevation (blue), the two green traces are the ground level<br>
>>> >>>>> elevation lifted<br>
>>> >>>>> 4m (nominal height of a single storey building) and 7m (nominal<br>
>>> >>>>> height of a<br>
>>> >>>>> double-storey building) so you can tell more or less if you<br>
>>> >>>>> actually have<br>
>>> >>>>> LOS over surrounding buildings (at least if you're not surrounded<br>
>>> >>>>> by<br>
>>> >>>>> highrises).<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> I arbitrarily picked two nodes in Geelong city for the initial<br>
>>> >>>>> start/end point, but if you plug your lat/long/alt (height of your<br>
>>> >>>>> antenna<br>
>>> >>>>> above ground) into the "Start" fields and hit "Update" you can then<br>
>>> >>>>> click<br>
>>> >>>>> around the other nodes to see the terrain profile between you and<br>
>>> >>>>> them. The<br>
>>> >>>>> "End" fields will allow you to plot to arbitrary coordinates if you<br>
>>> >>>>> want to<br>
>>> >>>>> see something that's not already on the map.<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> One warning though, it won't be terribly accurate over long<br>
>>> >>>>> distances,<br>
>>> >>>>> as the Elevation API is limited to 512 points per request, as such<br>
>>> >>>>> long<br>
>>> >>>>> distances may be problematic (should be pretty good to ~5km<br>
>>> >>>>> though), if I<br>
>>> >>>>> can be bothered (and assuming there's a decent path splitting<br>
>>> >>>>> algorithm<br>
>>> >>>>> available in the APIs) I might fix that by breaking the paths down<br>
>>> >>>>> into<br>
>>> >>>>> smaller chunks and querying them separately.<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> Figured it might be useful for other people.<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>> Morgan<br>
>>> >>>>><br>
>>> >>>>><br>
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