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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ok Let's do a sample calculation now based on the
actual equipment I own</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I'll use the calculator at </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><A
href="http://www.afar.net/rf-link-budget-calculator/">http://www.afar.net/rf-link-budget-calculator/</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We'll assume that the setup at Binunyong has the
maximum power output made up of 30db gain dish plus 8db power output and -2db
cable loss = 36 dbm maximum legal power</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>At my end on Mt Dandenong a 24 dbm ex galaxy dish
plus 14 dbm power and allow 2dbm cable loss with a Ubiquity bullet with -95 db
receiver sensitivity @ 1Mb/s </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>That should give a receive signal strength of -84.3
dbm with a fade margin of 10.7db</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Not a huge margin to play with but arguable doable.
The Ubiquity will probably do 256kbs at -100 or -105dbm so that should give a
bit more elbow room.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>cheers Peter </FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=peter@nmc.net.au href="mailto:peter@nmc.net.au">Peter Buncle</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vk3pb@optusnet.com.au
href="mailto:vk3pb@optusnet.com.au">Peter Berrett</A> ; <A
title=vk3jed@vkradio.com
href="mailto:vk3jed@vkradio.com">vk3jed@vkradio.com</A> ; <A
title=melbwireless@wireless.org.au
href="mailto:melbwireless@wireless.org.au">melbwireless@wireless.org.au</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 02, 2012 11:41
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] World Wifi
record</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi
Peter,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">If you’re talking
about the grids with the gold anodized aluminum,
24db<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The ex galaxy ones
with a width of around 600mm, they are 24db too.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
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Regards</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Peter
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy face=Arial><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Peter
Berrett [mailto:vk3pb@optusnet.com.au] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, 2 January 2012 11:18
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Peter Buncle; <A
href="mailto:vk3jed@vkradio.com">vk3jed@vkradio.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:melbwireless@wireless.org.au">melbwireless@wireless.org.au</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] World Wifi
record</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">By the way
Peter</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What gain do those ex Galaxy
slatted dishes have?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">cheers
Peter</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=peter@nmc.net.au href="mailto:peter@nmc.net.au">Peter Buncle</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=vk3jed@vkradio.com
href="mailto:vk3jed@vkradio.com">vk3jed@vkradio.com</A> ; <A
title=vk3pb@optusnet.com.au
href="mailto:vk3pb@optusnet.com.au">vk3pb@optusnet.com.au</A> ; <A
title=melbwireless@wireless.org.au
href="mailto:melbwireless@wireless.org.au">melbwireless@wireless.org.au</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Monday,
January 02, 2012 9:54 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re:
[MLB-WIRELESS] World Wifi record<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=2 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><!-- Converted from text/plain format -->Hi
tony<BR><BR>The north and south 2.4 antennas are facing wwn and wws. They
are only 14db panels the range isn't suitable for record
attempts.<BR><BR>BUT I did pickup gho north in the past at the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">geelong</st1:place></st1:City> side with the
horizontal pol wave guide !<BR><BR>So it does work well.<BR><BR>Keep me
informed of your schedule as I'm happy to help out with the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">melbourne</st1:place></st1:City> region
end.<BR><BR>Cheers<BR><BR>Peter<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:melbwireless-bounces@wireless.org.au">melbwireless-bounces@wireless.org.au</A>
<<A
href="mailto:melbwireless-bounces@wireless.org.au">melbwireless-bounces@wireless.org.au</A>><BR>To:
Peter Berrett <vk3pb@optusnet.com.au>; MW Wireless
<melbwireless@wireless.org.au><BR>Sent: Mon Jan 02 07:33:14
2012<BR>Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] World Wifi record<BR><BR>At 11:02 PM
1/1/2012, Peter Berrett wrote:<BR>>Just repeating an earlier question I
put on the list.<BR>><BR>>Does anyone know the exact angles that the
north and south 2.4 mhz beams are<BR>>pointing at
GHO?<BR>><BR>>What direction are they pointing?<BR><BR>Does anyone
know the noise floor there too?<BR><BR>73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL<BR><A
href="http://vkradio.com">http://vkradio.com</A><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Melbwireless
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