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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi David,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I totally agree. This discussion would
have been interesting 3-4 years ago but now it is just a moot point.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>There are very fat, very fast, very cheap
wireless pipes on their way to Australia and whilst I’m sure mlb-wireless
will move to a wimax model in the next 12 months (how come no one is talking
about that yet??) there is little that you can do to compete against these fat
fast cheap commercial services.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>None of the ‘reasons’ quoted</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><font size=1 color=navy face=Batang><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Batang;color:navy'>“</span></font><i><font
size=1 face=Batang><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Batang;font-style:
italic'>obvious ones i guess are Gaming, Video Conference, VOIP, Instant
Messenger.......” </span></font></i><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>have any advantage being delivered over wireless than being
delivered out of a hosted rack available to everyone on the internet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I mean sure you could hook up an Asterisk
server (check out <a href="http://www.cognation.net/Asterisk">www.Cognation.net/Asterisk</a></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> ) and have free ‘chat’ voip sessions but then what?
Sure I could even hook you up with a free Mexuar Corraleta license (check out <a
href="http://www.cognation.net/Mexuar">www.Cognation.net/Mexuar</a> ) so that
you could access these calls via a web browser without downloading a voip
client but big deal you could do the same from a peering rack.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Swapping ‘content’ is
interesting, especially as closed to the larger internet and therefore outside
of the eyes of the riaa but this would change if you went commercial.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I’m not wanting to rain on anyones
parade but I think best to stick to a hobby without ‘free internet’
because although access the to the net for free from ‘out of home’
locations is a good thing, and therefore mlb wireless should be acting as a
user group to encourage this there is little other value trying to compete with
commercial entities.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I am open to arguments otherwise but that’s
what my thoughts are for 2006.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Dean</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
melbwireless-bounces@wireless.org.au [mailto:melbwireless-bounces@wireless.org.au]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Point Cook Freenet<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 22 September 2006
8:16 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> melbwireless@wireless.org.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [MLB-WIRELESS] Services</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I dont think its a matter of competing with the Internet
anymore, its a fight that we would lose. Bigger, better, faster is coming.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Its all about content and services now. I can watch Big
Brother on my 3G phone, (but why would i want to).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Question is, what services can Melbourne Wireless provide.
High speed free data transfer is an excellent platform, but where does it take
me?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Some<a name="OLE_LINK2"></a><a name="OLE_LINK1"> obvious
ones i guess are Gaming, Video Conference, VOIP, Instant Messenger.......</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>What services can Melb Wireless as an entity provide?
It may be worth listing them to start with in one user friendly web page. Then
consolidate and build on the list.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>A "killer app" like cheap simple video
conferencing would help, as would off the shelf cheap and simple access kits.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Regards</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>David</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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