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<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>What
I meant was, delegate the sub domain cen.melbourne.wireless.org.au to 2
nameservers inside the private network, but these two machines can talk to the
net.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>Although no-one on the net could actually lookup
fred.cen.melbourne.wireless.org.au, the private network
could.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>Not
to mention the fact that as most peoples home networks are connected to the
Internet, how do you propose that people resolve these private names? Everyone
on MW would have to point to the authoritive nameservers for .mw, and those NS'
would then have to proxy REAL DNS queries into the net....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>I
agree <A
href="http://www.blah.melbourne.wireless.org.au">www.blah.melbourne.wireless.org.au</A>
is to long to type in, so perhaps something like <A
href="http://www.joeblogs.mw.org.au">www.joeblogs.mw.org.au</A>
????</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT
face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>Not using global public DNS seems ludicrous to
me, and is not future proof at all.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT
face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT
face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>B.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=068442701-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Matthew
Hill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 12, 2003 11:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Melbourne
Wireless<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain
Names<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Ben. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>however if the ips cant be routed route, then
they wont be seen from the outside, unless we become one big bloody nat, and
we all know how pretty they are :D</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>matt</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Ben.Holko@GlobalCenter.net.au
href="mailto:Ben.Holko@GlobalCenter.net.au">Ben Holko</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=matthew.hill@matthewhillonline.com
href="mailto:matthew.hill@matthewhillonline.com">Matthew Hill</A> ; <A
title=melbwireless@wireless.org.au
href="mailto:melbwireless@wireless.org.au">Melbourne Wireless</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 12, 2003 11:10
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [MLB-WIRELESS]
Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=615520801-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>yeah, but that matters little. We'd just need a couple of internet
connected nodes that can talk to the mw authoritative
nameservers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=615520801-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=615520801-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2>B.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=615520801-12052003><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Matthew Hill
[mailto:matthew.hill@matthewhillonline.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May
12, 2003 11:03 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Ben Holko; Melbourne
Wireless<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain
Names<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Ben,the only problem with that is that we
arent as far as i know using internet routable address'.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>matt</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Ben.Holko@GlobalCenter.net.au
href="mailto:Ben.Holko@GlobalCenter.net.au">Ben Holko</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=melbwireless@wireless.org.au
href="mailto:melbwireless@wireless.org.au">melbwireless@wireless.org.au</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 12, 2003 10:43
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [MLB-WIRELESS]
Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I like the idea of the region, but I think it's better to
use global DNS<BR>structure.<BR><BR>eg:
nodexxx.cen.melbourne.wireless.org.au<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au">owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au</A><BR>[mailto:owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au]On
Behalf Of Ryan Abbenhuys<BR>Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 10:23 AM<BR>To:
<A
href="mailto:melbwireless@wireless.org.au">melbwireless@wireless.org.au</A><BR>Subject:
[MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names<BR><BR><BR>So, is there
anything happening with regards to some sort of domain<BR>structure on
the network? Anyone from WGRouting&Addressing looking at
this<BR>at the moment?<BR><BR>I've started messing with domain names
over our way. Now bear with me here<BR>because I don't know much
about it or the terminology....<BR><BR>Here's a few thoughts.<BR><BR>We
need something we all use that signifies we're
melbwireless.<BR>e.g. .wan .mw .melw<BR><BR>then
perhaps something to signify regional areas.<BR>e.g. .oef (outer
east&foothills) .inn (inner north) .cen (central)<BR><BR>so you'd
end up with something say <A
href="http://www.wantirna-ap1.oef.mw">www.wantirna-ap1.oef.mw</A><BR><BR>Now
there's of course the other school of thought that we use domain
names<BR>that fit in with the rest of the world. But my feeling is that
this comes<BR>back we're going to need globaly routable IP's, etc
then....And some<BR>internet feeds, at which point you're looking at a
wireless network with<BR>open internet access, which is playing with
fire in my opinion.<BR><BR>What are other peoples
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