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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ok useing this information, lets say a network said
that they wouldnt let you connect unless you paid a 50$ per year membership fee,
would that wireless network need a carrier licence?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>rik</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=darrend@ndpgroup.com.au
href="mailto:darrend@ndpgroup.com.au">darrend@ndpgroup.com.au</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=melbwireless@wireless.org.au
href="mailto:melbwireless@wireless.org.au">melbwireless@wireless.org.au</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=rrgordon@netspace.net.au
href="mailto:rrgordon@netspace.net.au">rrgordon@netspace.net.au</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 15, 2003 7:20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Internet
Sharing</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Actually yes it is legal on a
non-commercial basis, under the act there is the provision for a network unit
to be exempt.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Quote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2><TT>A terrestrial radiocommunications customer access network
is</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><TT>an exempt network under (g) if the network
is used, or for use,</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><TT>for the sole purpose of
supplying carriage services on a non-commercial</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2><TT>basis.</TT></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>In october
last year the ACA defined what non-commercial means particularly in relation
to WLAN's</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>see <A
href="http://www.aca.gov.au/consumer/faq/wlans.htm">http://www.aca.gov.au/consumer/faq/wlans.htm</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>and in particular
http://www.aca.gov.au/consumer/fsheets/industry/fsi26.pdf</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>From the fact sheet:</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
size=2><TT>What is commercial?</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><TT>The following
questions may assist you to determine whether</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2><TT>your use of a WLAN fits the concept of commercial and</TT></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2><TT>therefore requires a carrier licence.</TT></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2><TT>Q.1 Do you receive any direct or indirect reward,
monetary or</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><TT>other, for use by others of your
network equipment?</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><TT>Q.2 Do you have a contract
or any other agreement (verbal or</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><TT>written)
with parties involved in the use of the network,</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2><TT>dealing, for example, with the payment of money and</TT></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2><TT>performance obligations?</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2><TT>Q.3 Do you use the network for the purpose of making a</TT></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2><TT>profit?</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><TT>Q.4 Do you have
an ABN for use in connection with the</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2><TT>operation of the network?</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><TT>If you
answer no to all of the questions above, you may be</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2><TT>exempt from the requirement to hold a carrier licence. If
you</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><TT>answer yes to any of the questions, or
are unsure about your</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><TT>answer to any of the
questions, you should contact the Licensing</TT></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2><TT>and National Interests Team at the ACA to discuss your</TT></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2><TT>situation.</TT></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>This is not a change to the Act, merely a clarification of the existing
act</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Essentially this means that if
you don't charge for the internet access and have no agreements in place for
the supply of the service, you are ok. (standard disclaimer
applies...just my opinion blah blah blah) You can contact the ACA to confirm
yourself if you like.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>The recent
House of Reps Inquiry into Wireless Broadband did recommend to relieve all
WLAN operators (including ISP's) of the carrier license requirement, but
legislation hasn't even been tabled to this effect yet, and it may
never.</FONT> <BR><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Darren Dreis<BR>Vice
President</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Melbourne Wireless
Inc.<BR>vicepresident@wireless.org.au</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>http://www.wireless.org.au</FONT> <BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B>Jamie Lovick
<jalovick@doof.org></B></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=1>Sent by: owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au</FONT>
<P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>15/02/2003 05:34 PM</FONT> <BR></P>
<TD><FONT face=Arial size=1> </FONT><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=1> To:
rik <mibz@optushome.com.au></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=1> cc:
melbwireless@wireless.org.au, Rick
<rrgordon@netspace.net.au></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=1> Subject:
Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Internet
Sharing</FONT></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><BR>As mentioned in my original Email, this has not been finalised. It
may<BR>not even happen.<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>Jamie<BR><BR>On Sat, 15 Feb
2003, rik wrote:<BR><BR>> didnt they say communitee/non profit groups could
do it without a licence?<BR>> <BR>> i belive i heard this being
said<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From:
"Jamie Lovick" <jalovick@doof.org><BR>> To:
<melbwireless@wireless.org.au><BR>> Cc: "Rick"
<rrgordon@netspace.net.au><BR>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003
4:43 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Internet Sharing<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> ><BR>> > Hi,<BR>> ><BR>> > On Fri, 14
Feb 2003, rik wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> > > wired or wireless
isnt the issue<BR>> ><BR>> > Incorrect.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Wired links are allowed to be used across boundries for no more than
500<BR>> > Meters according to the telecommunications act. Wireless was
not usable<BR>> > at all over any distance without a carriers licence
until a recent<BR>> > ministerial determination allowing wireless to be
usable commercially<BR>> > within the same property (such as a Hot
Spot).<BR>> ><BR>> > If you have a look at the Telecommunications
act revisions, or the DCITA<BR>> > website, the details are
there.<BR>> ><BR>> > > its the AUP, if your isp allows you to
share your net access then<BR>> > > BAM you can, wire or wireless
aslong as it is YOUR network and all<BR>> > > the computers belong to
you then you can (if the aup says yes)<BR>> ><BR>> > A service
providers AUP will determine if you can share a connection,<BR>> > but
the Telecommunications Act can determine by what method.<BR>> ><BR>>
> Regards<BR>> ><BR>> > Jamie<BR>> ><BR>> >
--<BR>> > Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant
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