<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Well this has been done to death! Here's an example for isp's</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">ISP's are considered a Consent Service Provider under the Telco Act.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">ISP's do have interception obligations. see http://www.aca.gov.au/consumer/fsheets/industry/fsi12.pdf</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">You'll note that ISP's need ONLY supply information when served by an inteception warrant. Under the Act, they do NOT need to keep historical log files of activity, nor do they need to actively monitor for illegal activity. Doing so would constitute a breach of the privacy act! That is why only the AG's dept and relevant police bodies have the power to serve one of these warrants. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Yes, it's probably a good idea to keep logs etc, but as Tony said the chances of this situation arising is small. And yes, being wireless there are other means of intercepting communications without capturing packets from the AP.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Under the current ACA non-commercial definition, MW are not classified as a Carrier or CSP therefore this does not apply to us. The govt knows this and hence is, I feel why the Inquiry committee was keen to ask us about our capabilities in this area and our ability to self regulate. They (ACA, govt etc.) want to allow us to operate legally, but at the same time don't want community wireless networks to become a haven for pirates and kiddy porn fiends!</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">All that is required here is a little common sense!</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Darren Dreis<br>
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<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au</font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">13/11/2002 09:25 AM</font>
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> Now that I've said all of that, lets get back to building a wireless<br>
> network. If "doing your best" means maintaining log files for a<br>
> reasonable time, then so be it. If "help as is reasonably necessary"<br>
> means you cooperate when asked by relevant authorities, then help when<br>
> asked as best you can.<br>
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I find it interesting that the term "ask" is used, as generally dealing<br>
with government people, they generally mean "you will do it or else" and<br>
that else is usually jail time if you refuse/can't help them. An example<br>
would be when a act was before parilment and they wanted to jail people for<br>
6 months if they refused to help them.<br>
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I may be a bit pedantic in this case, but in the end government and<br>
politicians are in it for themselves, not the people. Power corrupts and<br>
all that ;-)<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
Andrew Griffiths<br>
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