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<DIV><!--sino date 1.1.1997--><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=298084910-12112002>Section 313 is a pretty lightweight piece of
legislation. It has the Boy Scouts standard of care you must "Do Your
Best" to prevent others using networks from being used in or in relation to the
commission of offences. As a community organisation would it not be
reasonable to follow the example of internet industry leaders, (some 51%
government owned) in looking what should be the worlds best practice in doing
ones best?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=298084910-12112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=298084910-12112002>Carriers have hidden behind the "We're a Carrier not a
Censor" mantra to avoid placing restrictions on child and other banned porn
and warez in usenet usegroups. Without First Amendment protection
Australian Carriers are more circumspect than their US counterparts but the cost
of censorship and the potential loss of subscribers are more important than the
tacit rejection of censorship.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=298084910-12112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=298084910-12112002>Under
this regime you would be brave to operate an anonomous public service access
(although look at the service operated by most government public
librarys). Prudence would suggest that you know who is using your service,
if only to help proove that it wasn't you yourself that was maintinaing the DIY
semtex website (again look to the public & uni libraries for
assistance) If your software maintains logs and the boys come knocking
you'll need to make them available. If you flush the logs every week
because your 486 linux server has limited disk space noone can blame you unless
they legislate a requirement for a manditory retention time.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=298084910-12112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=298084910-12112002>Subsection (5) would appear to be able to be pleaded
against any action against the carrier, say for breach of privacy or
confidentiality, by a user or member. Interesting, as<EM> </EM>I do a
lot of credit searcing over the internet under strict Privacy Act conditions,
that this info can be divulged to the Telsra or (worse Singtel ) tech officer as
part of their duties of complying or not complying with the
Act.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=298084910-12112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=298084910-12112002>I
suppose this sort of stuff comes with being recognised as a Carrier by the dark
forces of beauracracy.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=298084910-12112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=298084910-12112002>Paul</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=298084910-12112002>Bundoora</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s313.html">http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s313.html</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1997 SECT 313
<B>313 Obligations of carriers and carriage service providers</B> </DIV>
<DL compact>
<DT>(1)
<DD>A carrier or carriage service provider must, in connection with:
<P></P></DD></DL>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DT>(a)
<DD>the operation by the carrier or provider of telecommunications
networks or facilities; or
<DT>(b)
<DD>the supply by the carrier or provider of carriage services;
</DD></DL></DL></DL>
<P>do the carrier's best or the provider's best to prevent telecommunications
networks and facilities from being used in, or in relation to, the commission of
offences against the laws of the Commonwealth or of the States and Territories.
</P>
<DL compact>
<DT>(2)
<DD>A carriage service intermediary must do the intermediary's best to prevent
telecommunications networks and facilities from being used in, or in relation
to, the commission of offences against the laws of the Commonwealth or of the
States and Territories.
<P></P>
<DT>(3)
<DD>A carrier or carriage service provider must, in connection with:
<P></P></DD></DL>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DT>(a)
<DD>the operation by the carrier or provider of telecommunications
networks or facilities; or
<DT>(b)
<DD>the supply by the carrier or provider of carriage services;
</DD></DL></DL></DL>
<P>give officers and authorities of the Commonwealth and of the States and
Territories such help as is reasonably necessary for the following purposes:
</P>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DT>(c)
<DD>enforcing the criminal law and laws imposing pecuniary penalties;
<DT>(d)
<DD>protecting the public revenue;
<DT>(e)
<DD>safeguarding national security. </DD></DL></DL></DL>
<DL compact>
<DL compact><FONT size=-1>Note: <A
href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s314.html">Section
314</A> deals with the terms and conditions on which such help is to be
provided. </FONT>
<P></P></DL></DL>
<DL compact>
<DT>(4)
<DD>A carriage service intermediary who arranges for the supply by a carriage
service provider of carriage services must, in connection with:
<P></P></DD></DL>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DT>(a)
<DD>the operation by the provider of telecommunications networks or
facilities; or
<DT>(b)
<DD>the supply by the provider of carriage services; </DD></DL></DL></DL>
<P>give officers and authorities of the Commonwealth and of the States and
Territories such help as is reasonably necessary for the following purposes:
</P>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DT>(c)
<DD>enforcing the criminal law and laws imposing pecuniary penalties;
<DT>(d)
<DD>protecting the public revenue;
<DT>(e)
<DD>safeguarding national security. </DD></DL></DL></DL>
<DL compact>
<DL compact><FONT size=-1>Note: <A
href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s314.html">Section
314</A> deals with the terms and conditions on which such help is to be
provided. </FONT>
<P></P></DL></DL>
<DL compact>
<DT>(5)
<DD>A carrier or carriage service provider is not liable to an action or other
proceeding for damages for or in relation to an act done or omitted in good
faith:
<P></P></DD></DL>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DL compact>
<DT>(a)
<DD>in performance of the duty imposed by subsection (1), (2), (3) or (4);
or
<DT>(b)
<DD>in compliance with a direction that the ACA gives in good faith in
performance of its duties under <A
href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s312.html">section
312</A>. </DD></DL></DL></DL>
<DL compact>
<DT>(6)
<DD>An officer, employee or agent of a carrier or of a carriage service
provider is not liable to an action or other proceeding for damages for or in
relation to an act done or omitted in good faith in connection with an act
done or omitted by the carrier or provider as mentioned in subsection (5).
<P></P>
<DT>(7)
<DD>A reference in this section to giving help includes a reference to giving
help by way of the provision of interception services, including services in
executing an interception warrant under the <I>Telecommunications
<DT>(Interception)
<DD>Act 1979 </I>.
<P></P></DD></DL>
<DL compact>
<DL compact><FONT size=-1>Note: Additional obligations concerning
interception capability, special assistance capability or agency specific
delivery capability are, or may be, imposed on a carrier or carriage service
provider under <A
href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/index.html#p15">Part
15</A>. </FONT>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au [mailto:owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>darrend@ndpgroup.com.au<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 12
November 2002 9:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
melbwireless@wireless.org.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] A letter I
got....<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Hi all, if you
look through the transcripts for the inquiry hearings in canberra, you'll note
that the AG dept said they plan on following up with all community wireless
groups to make them aware of the relevant regulations they must adhere to.
</FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>As many of you know, we have done
plenty of research on the subject as have many other groups aswell. I don't
believe there is anything to worry about here, as this is just the usual 'just
making sure you were aware of this' type of approach that is used in 'self
regulated' industries etc.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2> Just
as the inquiry has made recommendations to impove the education of wireless
operators (see barry's post on this), meaning both community groups aswell as
ISP's etc.</FONT> <BR><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Darren
Dreis<BR>Vice President</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Melbourne
Wireless Inc.<BR>vicepresident@wireless.org.au</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>http://www.wireless.org.au<BR></FONT><BR><BR><BR>
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<TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B>David
<vk3jda@optushome.com.au></B></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=1>Sent by: owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au</FONT>
<P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>12/11/2002 08:22 PM</FONT> <BR></P>
<TD><FONT face=Arial size=1> </FONT><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=1> To:
Melbwireless List
<melbwireless@wireless.org.au></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
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Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] A letter I
got....</FONT></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>There is just one question to start with - Is "Melbourne Wireless"
going to <BR>supply (not a person)?<BR>If they are not then reply "Sorry you
have your info wrong we are not"<BR><BR>If so then -<BR>It would be good to
know what is a CUSTOMER, is it a paying person or anyone?<BR>Dose membership
fees make you a paying customer?<BR><BR>David<BR><BR><BR>At 19:53 12/11/02
+1100, you wrote:<BR>>Got a letter today from the Attorney-General's
Department....<BR>><BR>>it follows:<BR>><BR>>--- Begin Letter
---<BR>>Dear Mr Haigh<BR>><BR>> WIRELESS BROADBAND
INTERNET ACCESS PROVIDERS<BR>>OBLIGATIONS UNDER SECTION 313 OF THE
TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1997<BR>><BR>>I understand Melbourne Wireless is
operating or intending to operate a <BR>>wireless broadband network to
facilitate access by customers to the <BR>>Internet and/or the PSTN. I am
writing to all wireless broadband access <BR>>providers to inform them of
their obligations under section 313 of the <BR>>Telecommunications Act
1997.<BR>><BR>>Under the Act, carriers and carriage service providers
must do their best <BR>>to prevent telecommunications networks and
facilities from being used to <BR>>commit offences. They must also give the
authorities such help as is <BR>>reasonably necessary for the purposes of
enforcing the criminal law and <BR>>laws imposing pecuniary penalties;
protecting the public revenus; and <BR>>safeguarding national security.
This may help include provision of <BR>>interception services, including
services in executing an interception <BR>>warrant under the
Telecommunications (Interception) Act 1979.<BR>><BR>>An Overview of
these obligations, including a link to the manual <BR>>'Telecommunications
and Law Enforcement', is available at the Australian <BR>>Communications
Authority
website:<BR>><BR>><http://www.aca.gov.au/licence/public_interestobligations.htm>http://www.aca.gov.au/licence/public_interestobligations.htm
<BR>><BR>><BR>>An officer from my office, the Australian Security
Intelligence <BR>>Organisation or a law enforcement agency may have already
made contact <BR>>with you to discuss details of the services offered by
your company and <BR>>the assistance that may be requested. If not, you
should expect contact to <BR>>be made in the near future. Specific issues
to be discussed will include:<BR>><BR>>a.
architecture/technical details of the service being offered, the
<BR>>customer base and distribution, and roll out plans;<BR>><BR>>b.
the nature of subscriber and historical traffic data that might
be <BR>>requested, the information that might be provided as part of the
request, <BR>>and the format in which the information can be
provided;<BR>><BR>>c. the telecommunications interception
warrant process;<BR>><BR>>d. identifiers for each
service;<BR>><BR>>e. technical implementation facilities,
and interception product <BR>>delivery arrangements;<BR>><BR>>f.
service level agreements; and<BR>><BR>>g.
physical security arrangements and security clearance requirements
<BR>>for the handling of classified information.<BR>><BR>>I would
appreciate your advice of the most appropriate point of contact <BR>>within
your organisation. If you have any queries, please do not hesitate <BR>>to
contact myself or <name withheld>, (xx) xxxx.xxxx or email her at:
<BR>><mailto:xxx@xx.xxx.xx>xxx@xx.xxx.xx<BR>><BR>>Yours
sincerely<BR>><BR>><BR>>Joan Sheedy<BR>>A/g Agency
Coordinator.<BR>><BR>>--- End Letter ---<BR>><BR>><BR>>Any
comments on this? I'm not sure if I like what it's
implying.....<BR>><BR>>Signed,<BR>>Steven
Haigh<BR>><http://wireless.org.au>http://wireless.org.au<BR>>(Visit
<https://wireless.org.au>https://wireless.org.au to install our
<BR>>Root Certificate.)<BR><BR>
David<BR> VK3JDA<BR>
Webmaster M&DRC<BR>
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