<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Craig... you're right. This would constitute commercial use. </font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Although you'll note that a nominated declaration applies to a network unit. Under these guidlines, the ACA would determine each AP to be a network unit! ie the provider would have to make a declaration for each AP they use to transmit their data. </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><dont quote me on this>From memory the charge for making such a declaration is atleast $3k, making it cheaper and easier for them to roll out their own infrastructure.</dont quote me on this> (it's somewhere on the aca site... cant remember) Either that or use infrastructure already in place by those carrier wholesale sharks!</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">As far as use by 'members' without additional charge, contract or service level agreements, the members would be considered 'inner circle' to the network units, thus not requiring carrier status. Access to the public will be a whole different matter.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Shame no one is giving bandwidth away :(</font>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>"Craig Mead" <craig.mead@pagesmith.com.au></b></font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: owner-melbwireless@wireless.org.au</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">| Hello Steven,<br>
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| Pity about the AUPs and 3 gig download limits with excess charges<br>
| though huh?<br>
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We've had quite a few ISP's talk to us about bandwith, however, it was not<br>
donating it, it was selling it over our network to end users, making it no<br>
longer non-commercial....or does it?<br>
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If we give them permission to transmit over our links and make a x%<br>
"donation" of the monthly fee per user they have on the network are we<br>
considered commercial? Even so it is transmitting from one network onto<br>
another going outside the "closed loop" therefore we would at least require<br>
at minumum a carriers declaration.<br>
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I think its definitely one to talk to the lawyers about.<br>
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