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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=545502101-02102002>I
concur with Tony, the problem is likely a conflict.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=545502101-02102002>Often
in these PC's (with built in NIC's) you can disable the NIC in the Bios..
disable it and see what happens..</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=545502101-02102002>Often
as well is the way that the PNP works.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=545502101-02102002>Sometimes disabling the modules in the box (often
/etc/modules) can get you a booting machine. Comment out all of the modules the
manually load them until you find the one that causes you
grief.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=545502101-02102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=545502101-02102002>Eleminate Variables and the answer will be revealed!
:o)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=545502101-02102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=545502101-02102002>Mike</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Garreth Cain
[mailto:gcain@websolutions.nu]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 2 October 2002 8:58
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Tony Langdon<BR><B>Cc:</B>
melbwireless@wireless.org.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] What
The?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Tony,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The problem is with any interface
(eth,wlan&ppp) Unfortunately the eth nic is onboard... and I have tried
shuffling the wireless card around.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Funny thing is though, the machine works great
with the old hard drive in it.... although the M/B is a bit suspect, I
remember having problems with it before.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Looks like its gonna be a rebuild of the
system... shouldn't take too long! (famous last words!!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Garreth Cain</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tlangdon@atctraining.com.au
href="mailto:tlangdon@atctraining.com.au">Tony Langdon</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=gcain@websolutions.nu
href="mailto:gcain@websolutions.nu">'Garreth Cain'</A> ; <A
title=melbwireless@wireless.org.au
href="mailto:melbwireless@wireless.org.au">melbwireless@wireless.org.au</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:30
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] What
The?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now, everytime I try do ANYTHING with the
network interfaces the program I'm using locks up (not the machine though, I
can still get around in other tty's)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For example: ifconfig, ifup xxx, ifdown xxx,
wlan start/stop or anything around there locks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>I can't even kill -9 PID it..<SPAN
class=205582722-01102002><FONT
color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=205582722-01102002><FONT color=#0000ff>Is it just the wireless card or
is it any network interface? if it's a PCI based system, have you
tried swapping cards into different slots or removing one then trying
to ifup the other?</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any thoughts on what could be causing this?
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Im reluctant to start again since Ive
put a little over two weeks into this one machine...<SPAN
class=205582722-01102002><FONT
color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=205582722-01102002><FONT color=#0000ff>Smells like a hardware
conflict. Shuffling cards may help. Another possibility is a
motherboard or other issue, so you may need to prepare to do a bit of
hardware swapping.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><BR>
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