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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Before this thread degenerates into <span
class=GramE>a for</span> and against Steve thread…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The beautiful thing about the democratic <span
class=GramE>system,</span> is that if people really object to the way he’s
running things, he won’t remain president past September.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regardless of where you stand on the
issue, please don’t turn this into a personal thing against people, or
escalate the Sydney / Melbourne thing just as it was beginning to settle down.
We’re all doing our best to promote community wireless groups in
Australia.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>james</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
syd-wireless-admin@lists.sydneywireless.com
[mailto:syd-wireless-admin@lists.sydneywireless.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>xfesty<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 23 July 2002 3:48
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
syd-wireless@lists.sydneywireless.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> melbwireless@wireless.org.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Syd-Wireless] ITNews
Story.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=10341"><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=10341</span></font></a><br>
<br>
</span></font>Just read that URL. I'm a slight bit peeved after reading
it. I don't<br>
understand how one man could make Melb Wireless look so freakin' bad.<br>
<br>
I think this one quote is relevant, where the incompetency shines out:<br>
<br>
> Melbourne Wireless president Steven Haigh said his organisation is not<br>
trying to undercut the ISPs. "At the moment, we are not trying to rival
the<br>
ISPS at all," he said.<br>
> "Not yet, but you never know what happens," he added.<br>
<br>
....thankyou for the great representation of community networks, Mr. "War
on ISP's".<br>
<br>
I've not heard a lot from Haigh, but I've heard him *continually* contradict<br>
himself, and generally make Melbourne Wireless (and community wireless<br>
groups in general) look very taunting to telecommunication corporations.<br>
Its evident even in that one article. Thank god Duane has half a clue on<br>
how to explain things, which stopped the article from going the way it<br>
seemed to be headed.<br>
<br>
I'm strongly of the opinion that Haigh may mean the end of free community<br>
wireless in Australia. Statements that he makes *all the time* is going
to<br>
get us killed. The reason we are here is because this is a hobby, not<br>
because we're deliberately trying to rip off a company. Our represented<br>
attitudes is directly dependent on how the 'giants' handle us. I honestly<br>
do believe its possible that they could kill us completely off, if they<br>
wanted.<br>
<br>
Melb Wireless - I'm not sure if I'm the only one who feels this way, but you<br>
may want to re-evaluate who you have as your head man. Remember - these<br>
people are representing YOU, and the future of community networks.<br>
Personally I'm satisfied with people like Craig and Duane, who in media-type<br>
situations have expressed the community's general interest accurately, and<br>
not make us look like a bunch of warez kiddies. That's certainly not why<br>
I'm here.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>My general problem is the fact that anything Haigh says to represent
Melb Wireless just doesn't nessecarily reflect them; it actually reflects any
community group in Australia. And as a result of that, we get the
repercussions of such statements that he may make. I'm not comfortable
with that, or the way things may be headed if this keeps up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
I think we all need to look at the big picture again and realise why we want<br>
this. People are getting a /tad/ distracted.<br>
<br>
- Ryan</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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