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Hi all,<br>
FWIW, I can actually see the arguement of the sydney group. when is free
truely free? at what point does a volunteer group grow too big to be run
on a voluntee only basis?<br>
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OK, so free and not-for-profit are not the same thing.<br>
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we have just set up (at least potentially) as a NFP org, right? <br>
so why are we doing that?<br>
are we going to require all people who access melb wireless to abide by usage
rules? <br>
enforcement?<br>
contract?<br>
this implies that non-members (what ever that means) are excluded.<br>
even if melbwireless owns none of the infrastructure (which I doubt will
be totally true - eg. the web server...)<br>
the club still has admin and accounting costs.... and so on<br>
at what point do we cross over form being private owners of hardware and
into the area of being a public access network.<br>
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ofcourse, like one notion before me, I have no answers to these questions....<br>
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mind you, $100 might seem a little steep and I could understand that as a
criticism, unless there is some hardware or similar issues we cannot see
from here.<br>
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On 04/19/02 09:52 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lkhoo@csc.com.au">lkhoo@csc.com.au</a> wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">fee "to ensure stability in the network and to cover the cost of<br></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!----><br>I probably wont be the last person to say "wtf?". Are they providing<br>customers with access SLA's? (service level agreements)<br>Then again, Telstra charge big bucks for clients to access their cable and<br>adsl networks and don't have SLA's (to end users).<br><br>If they are charging money for access to their network then isn't this go<br>against the whole"non-profit" 2.4ghz usage agreement?<br><br>Lucas<br><br><br><br>To unsubscribe: send mail to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:majordomo@wireless.org.au">majordomo@wireless.org.au</a><br>with "unsubscribe melbwireless" in the body of the message<br><br><br></pre>
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