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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Lucas it really sounds like this is not for you. For the early stages this is really going to be for dedicated people with an interest in the technology and an interest in setting up and problem solving. It sounds to me like you should be joining in 2 years down the track when things are up and running (hopefully), and it's just a case of you putting an antenna on your roof and pointing to your local AP 2k's away.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>What you want just doesn't exist yet and it seems instead of offering ideas you want to know how and when we are going to cross bridges that we simply haven't got in sight of yet.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>> "I would want to talk to people interstate/overseas, local is of no</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> interest as phone call is cheap."</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Not gonna happen</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> "And you mention 100's of megabyts of stuff, what stuff?? who or where</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> is this going to be housed?"</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Anyone connected to the network who wants to share it for others.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> "I am just looking for a damn good reason to get on, and not that Mel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Wireless will die in 6 months.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> A thousand dollars is a lot of money to me, to some it may be chicken</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> feed, but not to me, thats about 14 months of my optus cable usage..."</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Then stick with your Optus cable which provides you with everything you want. No good trying to get involved with Melbwireless now in the hope that you will be able to do everything you could on Optus cable but for free when they may not happen for 5 years if ever.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>> Another Poster replied with a answer "Use my imagination", well love to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> track russian satelites, Find Osma Bin Laden for the reward, get $1 for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> every every Microsoft product sold, but these are just pure fantasy.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>They meant you could do anything that you can currently do on the Internet, but it will be on a much smaller scale amoung Melbwireless users.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>> So I am looking for some real justification and uses to ahead with it.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>If you are looking for justification you are just a consumer who should only be with an ISP i think. Melbwireless would have to be regarded also as a hobby I believe.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>> Just looking for a good reason.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I think you are expecting too much too soon with little or no effort involved in achieving it.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>this is like the longest email i've ever written. :)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Lucas Lozo [<A HREF="mailto:lucas.lozo@cdt.com.au">mailto:lucas.lozo@cdt.com.au</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2002 15:03</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Is that $280 for a access point to become a node?? thats cheap..</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>old p100 for $100, maybe but if i wanted one to buy one tommorrow, prob</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>cost $200-$300 with monitor.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Aerial for $30, what about must, fastners etc..</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>If you say you can supply all that at around $500, i will give you $200</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>for your trouble!!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I still say will cost around $1000 and probably a little more once you</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>install it.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>By my calculation using the cheapest hardware i know of, and using s/h</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>antenna is $1055 for parts alone not labour.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Filesharing/ Video conferencing is only good if you want to talk to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>other melb Wireless users, and how many are online 24/7? I would want to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>talk to people interstate/overseas, local is of no interest as phone</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>call is cheap.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>And you mention 100's of megabyts of stuff, what stuff?? who or where is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>this going to be housed?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Hey Don't get me wrong, When I heard about Melb Wireless i thought it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>was a great idea, ran out even bought a galaxy S/H Aerial, but after</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>that when i started looking at cable/ Mast, access points etc</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>It went way over $1000, so the arial is gathering dust until i can</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>justify why i should get on.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I am just looking for a damn good reason to get on, and not that Mel</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Wireless will die in 6 months.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>A thousand dollars is a lot of money to me, to some it may be chicken</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>feed, but not to me, thats about 14 months of my optus cable usage...</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Another Poster replied with a answer "Use my imagination", well love to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>track russian satelites, Find Osma Bin Laden for the reward, get $1 for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>every every Microsoft product sold, but these are just pure fantasy.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>So I am looking for some real justification and uses to ahead with it.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Since there is some question on internet access legalities, so do we end</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>up running private Ip's?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Or do we run Fixed Ip with external access some how.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>For access points and servers online now, can we publish on melb</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>wireless site what services, Files, facilities are running we know what</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>to connect to and do?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Melb Wireless with few users online will give great speed of transfer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>etc, But Its like having Porshe 996 in the garage that you never drive,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>so whats the point....</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Just looking for a good reason.</FONT>
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