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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=030495801-26102001>Optus
do allow a LAN in the same premises, but not remote access to the cable
connection.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Agatha
[mailto:agatha@processplant.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 26 October 2001
9:56<BR><B>To:</B> melbwireless@melbwireless.dyndns.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[MLB-WIRELESS] bandwidth issues for the future/internet acces
s<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Garamond>Telstra & Optus both hate
this. In fact if you read the (un)AUP, they both state that you may not
connect any network to the machine that has the cable modem link. I have
had battles with both these companies to do with exactly this. It is
irrelevant whether it is a winblows98 box with a second winblows box attached,
or a big fat Gb network, they don't like it and they don't put up with it IF
they find out. Which they generally don't.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:rohanf@vic.bigpond.net.au"
title=rohanf@vic.bigpond.net.au>Rohan Fernando</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:melbwireless@melbwireless.dyndns.org"
title=melbwireless@melbwireless.dyndns.org>melbwireless@melbwireless.dyndns.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 26, 2001 9:22
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] bandwidth
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Michael,<BR><BR>No idea about the legalities (that's what
lawyers are for) but here's a<BR>suggestion.<BR><BR>A gang of cable modems
could be established to provide the feed to the WLAN.<BR>Admittedly there is
an overhead to run it, but then someone has to pay for<BR>the data anyway.
Would first need to model the estimated data loadings<BR>versus cost to run
the modems to determine viability. Also probably require<BR>H/W & S/W to
load balance the modems ie keeping them all under the
usage<BR>cap.<BR><BR>Not sure how this conflicts with the overall objective
to provide a free<BR>service but, a very small annual subscription fee could
be charged to all<BR>WLAN users. This could provide economies of scale
overall. Could use WLAN<BR>monitoring to boot off / block anyone that abuses
an WLAN AUP.<BR><BR>Suspect the underlying issue will be that if there isn't
currently an<BR>AUP/law against this application of cable modems, then there
may soon be.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Rohan Fernando<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Michael Bailey [<A
href="mailto:mbailey@enternet.com.au">mailto:mbailey@enternet.com.au</A>]<BR>Sent:
Friday, October 26, 2001 3:49 AM<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:melbwireless@melbwireless.dyndns.org">melbwireless@melbwireless.dyndns.org</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] bandwidth issues for the future/internet<BR>acces
s<BR><BR><BR>On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 02:39:40PM +1000, Barry Park
wrote:<BR>> My understanding is that:<BR>><BR>> (i) Unless you have
express consent from your ISP, feeding your Internet<BR>> service into an
open wireless connection will be against both the ISP's<BR>> business
model and possibly even the law.<BR><BR>I don't know of any law that
prohibits you from letting your neighbour use<BR>your internet connection.
This isn't Napster. Not everything fun is illegal.<BR><BR>As far as ISP
business models go, the right way to go would be to choose an<BR>ISP that
allows you to share your bandwidth. Read your AUP carefully and<BR>even ask
them. If your traffic usage rises too much, your ISP will probably<BR>charge
you more. So it will be up to you to manage it, just like
the<BR>hundreds<BR>of mom and pop ISPs out there. There's not much
difference.<BR><BR>- Mike<BR><BR>--<BR>To unsubscribe, send mail to <A
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