[MLB-WIRELESS] New Lightpointe product
    mw at freenet.net.au 
    mw at freenet.net.au
       
    Wed Aug  5 19:41:09 AEST 2015
    
    
  
Yeah, bugger – that’ll kill it! :-D
 
I looked at the detail, and there’s actually a peak for oxygen absorbtion smack on 60GHz – that’s why they open that band up for class license no doubt ;)
 
It looks like it is ‘only’ about 11dB though, but that’s still easily enough to put a dampner on that idea ;)
 
(good article about all that here: https://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet70/oet70a.pdf)
 
Nonetheless, It’s still an interesting alternative to 24GHz :)
 
Cheers!
Mike.
 
From: Tony Langdon [mailto:vk3jed at vkradio.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 5 August 2015 7:25 PM
To: mw at freenet.net.au
Cc: melbwireless-bounces at lists.wireless.org.au
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] New Lightpointe product
 
On 5/08/2015 7:18 PM, mw at freenet.net.au <mailto:mw at freenet.net.au>  wrote:
Hey Tony,
 
I thought so too until I took a look at the LIPD docs:
51
Data communications transmitters used outdoors
59000–63000
150 W
1.  Transmitters are limited to land and maritime deployments.
2.  Maximum transmitter power must be 20 mW or less.
3.  Spurious emissions outside the band must be less than ‑30dBm/MHz.
4.  For outdoor use only.
According to this detail, max EIRP is 52dBm which means that 8 dBm max tx capability with 47dBi antenna still comes in under the regulatory limits.
According to free space attenuation calculator (here http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/propagation/path-loss/free-space-formula-equation.php) 60GHz over 10km is only 146dB, so if that lightpointe gear can run at full 55dBm EIRP, then result at the receiver (assume 47dBi antenna) will be up to around -47 which will surely be sufficient for a decent link :)
Tell you what, though, 0.6 degree antenna beam will make it damn tricky to align, and to KEEP aligned when there is a lot of heat fluctuation in the air ;)
But even with the 44dBi antenna, it only adds 18dB to the calculations, and -65 over 10km is still pretty good….
Did you include the additional 16dB/km of Oxygen absorption loss?  That's on top of normal 1/R^2 free space losses.  So, there's 160dB of absorption loss from oxygen in the atmosphere over a 10k path.  Hmm, 300dB path loss, that's worse than VHF moonbounce (~270dB)! :)  
-- 
73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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