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What is commercial?
The following questions may assist you to determine whether
your use of a WLAN fits the concept of commercial and
therefore requires a carrier licence.
Q.1 Do you receive any direct or indirect reward, monetary or
other, for use by others of your network equipment?
Q.2 Do you have a contract or any other agreement (verbal or
written) with parties involved in the use of the network,
dealing, for example, with the payment of money and
performance obligations?
Q.3 Do you use the network for the purpose of making a
profit?
Q.4 Do you have an ABN for use in connection with the
operation of the network?
If you answer no to all of the questions above, you may be
exempt from the requirement to hold a carrier licence. If you
answer yes to any of the questions, or are unsure about your
answer to any of the questions, you should contact the Licensing
and National Interests Team at the ACA to discuss your
situation.
This is not a change to the Act, merely a clarification of the existing
act
Essentially this means that if you don't charge for the internet access
and have no agreements in place for the supply of the service, you are ok.
(standard disclaimer applies...just my opinion blah blah blah) You can
contact the ACA to confirm yourself if you like.
The recent House of Reps Inquiry into Wireless Broadband did recommend to
relieve all WLAN operators (including ISP's) of the carrier license
requirement, but legislation hasn't even been tabled to this effect yet,
and it may never.
Darren Dreis
Vice President
Melbourne Wireless Inc.
vicepresident at wireless.org.au
http://www.wireless.org.au
Jamie Lovick <jalovick at doof.org>
Sent by: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
15/02/2003 05:34 PM
To: rik <mibz at optushome.com.au>
cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au, Rick <rrgordon at netspace.net.au>
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Internet Sharing
As mentioned in my original Email, this has not been finalised. It may
not even happen.
Regards
Jamie
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, rik wrote:
> didnt they say communitee/non profit groups could do it without a
licence?
>
> i belive i heard this being said
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Lovick" <jalovick at doof.org>
> To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> Cc: "Rick" <rrgordon at netspace.net.au>
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Internet Sharing
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, rik wrote:
> > >
> > > wired or wireless isnt the issue
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > Wired links are allowed to be used across boundries for no more than
500
> > Meters according to the telecommunications act. Wireless was not
usable
> > at all over any distance without a carriers licence until a recent
> > ministerial determination allowing wireless to be usable commercially
> > within the same property (such as a Hot Spot).
> >
> > If you have a look at the Telecommunications act revisions, or the
DCITA
> > website, the details are there.
> >
> > > its the AUP, if your isp allows you to share your net access then
> > > BAM you can, wire or wireless aslong as it is YOUR network and all
> > > the computers belong to you then you can (if the aup says yes)
> >
> > A service providers AUP will determine if you can share a connection,
> > but the Telecommunications Act can determine by what method.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> > --
> > Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant <-> +614 1479 1681
> > Hobby : Doof.org -> jalovick at doof.org
> > Director : Drastic Solutions Pty Ltd ->
jalovick at drasticsolutions.com.au
> > ----- Public Relations Officer - the Australian Wireless Association
-----
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo at wireless.org.au
> > with "unsubscribe melbwireless" in the body of the message
> >
>
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Hobby : Doof.org -> jalovick at doof.org
Director : Drastic Solutions Pty Ltd -> jalovick at drasticsolutions.com.au
----- Public Relations Officer - the Australian Wireless Association -----
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Actually yes it is legal on a non-commercial basis, under the act there is the provision for a network unit to be exempt.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Quote:</font>
<br><font size=2><tt>A terrestrial radiocommunications customer access network is</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>an exempt network under (g) if the network is used, or for use,</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>for the sole purpose of supplying carriage services on a non-commercial</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>basis.</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">In october last year the ACA defined what non-commercial means particularly in relation to WLAN's</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">see http://www.aca.gov.au/consumer/faq/wlans.htm</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">and in particular http://www.aca.gov.au/consumer/fsheets/industry/fsi26.pdf</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">From the fact sheet:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2><tt>What is commercial?</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>The following questions may assist you to determine whether</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>your use of a WLAN fits the concept of commercial and</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>therefore requires a carrier licence.</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>Q.1 Do you receive any direct or indirect reward, monetary or</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>other, for use by others of your network equipment?</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>Q.2 Do you have a contract or any other agreement (verbal or</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>written) with parties involved in the use of the network,</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>dealing, for example, with the payment of money and</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>performance obligations?</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>Q.3 Do you use the network for the purpose of making a</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>profit?</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>Q.4 Do you have an ABN for use in connection with the</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>operation of the network?</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>If you answer no to all of the questions above, you may be</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>exempt from the requirement to hold a carrier licence. If you</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>answer yes to any of the questions, or are unsure about your</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>answer to any of the questions, you should contact the Licensing</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>and National Interests Team at the ACA to discuss your</tt></font>
<br><font size=2><tt>situation.</tt></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">This is not a change to the Act, merely a clarification of the existing act</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Essentially this means that if you don't charge for the internet access and have no agreements in place for the supply of the service, you are ok. (standard disclaimer applies...just my opinion blah blah blah) You can contact the ACA to confirm yourself if you like.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The recent House of Reps Inquiry into Wireless Broadband did recommend to relieve all WLAN operators (including ISP's) of the carrier license requirement, but legislation hasn't even been tabled to this effect yet, and it may never.</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Darren Dreis<br>
Vice President</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Melbourne Wireless Inc.<br>
vicepresident at wireless.org.au</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">http://www.wireless.org.au</font>
<br>
<br>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>Jamie Lovick <jalovick at doof.org></b></font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au</font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">15/02/2003 05:34 PM</font>
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<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> To: rik <mibz at optushome.com.au></font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au, Rick <rrgordon at netspace.net.au></font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Internet Sharing</font></table>
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As mentioned in my original Email, this has not been finalised. It may<br>
not even happen.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Jamie<br>
<br>
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, rik wrote:<br>
<br>
> didnt they say communitee/non profit groups could do it without a licence?<br>
> <br>
> i belive i heard this being said<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Jamie Lovick" <jalovick at doof.org><br>
> To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au><br>
> Cc: "Rick" <rrgordon at netspace.net.au><br>
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 4:43 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Internet Sharing<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ><br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, rik wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > wired or wireless isnt the issue<br>
> ><br>
> > Incorrect.<br>
> ><br>
> > Wired links are allowed to be used across boundries for no more than 500<br>
> > Meters according to the telecommunications act. Wireless was not usable<br>
> > at all over any distance without a carriers licence until a recent<br>
> > ministerial determination allowing wireless to be usable commercially<br>
> > within the same property (such as a Hot Spot).<br>
> ><br>
> > If you have a look at the Telecommunications act revisions, or the DCITA<br>
> > website, the details are there.<br>
> ><br>
> > > its the AUP, if your isp allows you to share your net access then<br>
> > > BAM you can, wire or wireless aslong as it is YOUR network and all<br>
> > > the computers belong to you then you can (if the aup says yes)<br>
> ><br>
> > A service providers AUP will determine if you can share a connection,<br>
> > but the Telecommunications Act can determine by what method.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards<br>
> ><br>
> > Jamie<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant <-> +614 1479 1681<br>
> > Hobby : Doof.org -> jalovick at doof.org<br>
> > Director : Drastic Solutions Pty Ltd -> jalovick at drasticsolutions.com.au<br>
> > ----- Public Relations Officer - the Australian Wireless Association -----<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo at wireless.org.au<br>
> > with "unsubscribe melbwireless" in the body of the message<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
<br>
--<br>
Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant <-> +614 1479 1681<br>
Hobby : Doof.org -> jalovick at doof.org<br>
Director : Drastic Solutions Pty Ltd -> jalovick at drasticsolutions.com.au<br>
----- Public Relations Officer - the Australian Wireless Association -----<br>
<br>
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