[MLB-WIRELESS] possible vpn and public ip address allocationoption

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Being in Bendigo I'd be keen to consider a VPN connection. 
 
Maybe the VPN should be hosted on that dedicated box/connection taht was offered recently on the  
mailing list. 
 
On Tue 16/03/10 10:02 PM , Steven Haigh netwiz at crc.id.au sent: 
> On 16/03/2010, at 8:55 PM, <mw at freenet. 
> net.au> <mw at freenet. 
> net.au> wrote:> Should be quite easy really - only a matter of 
> /where/ to put it.  The way I work it, if there was a VMWare platform 
> available for MW services, it would be easy as pie to add services to the 
> mix by simply running up a new VM with the new service - for example a VM 
> running freeradius could be developed with read-only access to the 
> database, and thereby no danger of damage to the database 
> contents.>  
> > Furthermore, this sort of setup could support 
> various project teams working on some area of specific interest to 
> individuals - we could have an SNMP project, a mailing list project, web 
> site project, wiki project and so forth, all on independent VMs.  Nobody 
> needs to get root access to something they aren't involved in.  
> Furthermore, individuals can easy establish copies of the VMs relevant to 
> their project to work on independent development components. 
>  
> A number of comments about this: 
>  
> 1) For what you want to do, nobody should need root access. If they do, 
> then you're doing something wrong. There is no reason why someone who is 
> working on a wiki needs root level access to the operating system. Again, 
> if they do, then something is being done wrong. 
> 2) I'd be more concerned at the moment with fixing things like spammers who 
> have automated the process of creating accounts and spamming the wiki such 
> as: http://www.melbournewireless.org.au/wiki/?diff=Apple 
> This is much more of an issue than having VMs everywhere and trying to 
> reinvent the wheel. 
> 3) You seem to overlook the overhead in VMs. Unless you throw serious 
> hardware at it the performance penalty is more than acceptable for doing 
> all but toying. Neither the current server nor the newer one being built 
> supports hardware virtualisation so there is a rather large performance 
> drop in CPU cache speeds between tasks etc etc. You basically lose ~10-20% 
> CPU performance even if using hardware virtualisation. From what I have 
> seen this gets even worse when multiple VMs are very busy. 
> 4) Nobody working on a user space project (snmp, wiki etc etc) should need 
> root access. I know I mentioned this twice, but its such an important thing 
> I thought I would mention it twice. 
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