[MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names

Ryan Abbenhuys sneeze at alphalink.com.au
Mon May 12 11:47:11 EST 2003


I was just going along with a format similar to what you see globally. 
Where .mw or similar replaces the country .au .nz or whatever, and then
oef .pen .inn replaces where you would normally see .com .edu .gov etc.
Personally I'd like to see some sort of region in there somewhere so that
you know, hey this address is .pen, it's probably going to be a bit slower
than an address that is .oef which is right in my neck of the woods.

As for AP's not running much, mine is probably running too much.  At the
moment i've got WWW, FTP, IRC, SMB shares, did have an Unreal Tournament
server but trying a few other game servers at the moment. I'm also planning
on latching on another box to to host Win2k game servers not available for
linux.

As for a DNS that resolves both wireless addresses and internet addresses,
my AP's DNS server appears to be doing that at the moment as I noticed a
helluva lot of DNS activity last night when I ran a tcpdump on it's LAN
interface.  Exactly how much data is DNS likely to consume? I don't mind if
it's resolving internet addresses for people connected to me via wireless
as long as it's not taking too much of my bandwidth away.

>But isn't the point of DNS that you don't need to remember ip addresses or

>associate a url with a location? If someones looking for a resource on the

>network does it really matter where it is? you just need to know if you've

>got connectivity and what the ip address is.
>
>An access point isn't likely to be running anything worthwhile, probably 
>just routing a bit of data maybe a webserver. The interesting stuff will
be 
>hanging off that, the clients who are running game servers, the ptp stuff 
>that might have los to a couple of aps and be sending traffic through
both.
>
>Once the network is built and theres a degree more connectivity, then the 
>people who need to know or who want to can simply look up in the node 
>database node bcg and see that I'm running a webserver at something like 
>bcg.wireless.org.au. Using global urls might make it easier to run a dns 
>that sits on both the internet and the wireless networks so people can 
>specify one dns and not have to split searching for internet and other 
>domains off on different servers (which might be difficult to do??). All 
>you need to know about me is that my node name is bcg, not that I'm in the

>innernorth and I'm running an AP near an oef.
>
>2c more
>Matt
>
>
>
>At 10:52 AM 12/5/2003 +1000, Matthew Hill wrote:
>>Ryan and all
>>
>>This is what i wanted to bring up a while ago and they werent interested.
>>
>>This is similar to what perth suggests, and what your suggested in your 
>>example, rocks. Exactly what is possbily should be.
>>
>><http://www.wantirna-ap1.oef.mw>www.wantirna-ap1.oef.mw says exsactly 
>>where it is,
>>
>><http://www.thebigfella.peninsula.mw>www.thebigfella.peninsula.mw that 
>>would be mine ...
>>
>>Al;though i can see it being a while since we dont have  alot of the
areas 
>>connected, it doesnt hurrt to have something implemented early so it fits

>>in oncec connected.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>MAtt
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:sneeze at alphalink.com.au>Ryan Abbenhuys
>>To: <mailto:melbwireless at wireless.org.au>melbwireless at wireless.org.au
>>Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 10:23 AM
>>Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names
>>
>>So, is there anything happening with regards to some sort of domain
>>structure on the network?  Anyone from WGRouting&Addressing looking at
this
>>at the moment?
>>
>>I've started messing with domain names over our way.  Now bear with me
here
>>because I don't know much about it or the terminology....
>>
>>Here's a few thoughts.
>>
>>We need something we all use that signifies we're melbwireless.
>>e.g.  .wan  .mw  .melw
>>
>>then perhaps something to signify regional areas.
>>e.g. .oef (outer east&foothills) .inn (inner north) .cen (central)
>>
>>so you'd end up with something say 
>><http://www.wantirna-ap1.oef.mw>www.wantirna-ap1.oef.mw
>>
>>Now there's of course the other school of thought that we use domain
names
>>that fit in with the rest of the world. But my feeling is that this comes
>>back we're going to need globaly routable IP's, etc then....And some
>>internet feeds, at which point you're looking at a wireless network with
>>open internet access, which is playing with fire in my opinion.
>>
>>What are other peoples thoughts/ideas?
>>
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