[MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) ( anyone else get this? )

Craig Sanders cas at taz.net.au
Tue Jan 14 10:33:16 EST 2003


On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 09:36:58AM +1100, Jason Clarke wrote:
> It's more along the lines of setting up the MW mailing list to mung
> the headers so that I / people don't have to reply-to-all to get it
> back to the list.

ok, you're talking about Reply-To munging, which is a completely
different and unrelated issue.  

it's also a brain-damaged and broken thing for a mailing list to do.
for info, see:

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

> It's only out of habit I use reply-to-all and check the addresses
> listed, but many don't. YOU didn't.

that's because it's a matter of preference.  some people like to be
CC-ed on list mail, and some people don't like it.  if i know someone
doesn't like it, and if i remember, then i'll trim their address from
the CC list.

fortunately, there is a way to automatically specify your preference
without expecting everyone else to have to remember.  just set your mail
client to add a Mail-Followup-To header when you send messages to a
list.  this allows you to specify whether you want follow-ups to go to
you, to the list, or to both.

> And it utterly SHITS me that I receive two e-mails.

that's not what the Reply-To header is for.  munging the reply-to header
wouldn't fix this anyway.

use the Mail-Followup-To header to indicate your preference.  that's
what it's for.

> How ever, I know that my complaints will only start up another war
> about mail clients 

obviously a sore spot, so i'll assume you've been told before that you
should use a decent mail client.  good advice.

if there's a solution (i.e. using a non-broken mail client) to a problem
and you choose not to implement that solution then you really have no
cause to complain.  you can't expect anyone else to care much about your
problem if you don't care enough to bother to fix it.


craig

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