[MLB-WIRELESS] Re: Node x is over this way -was- Applications

[Jon]

Ben Anderson wrote:

> > May I just add something:
> >
> > Problem A - we don't want anybody to know physically where any of the
> > nodes are, but we want the link-layer to self-optimise.
> >
> > JonSay:  Forget it!  Don't try to solve this problem, its too hard!
> > Instead:
>
> I think it's not too hard to have a self-optimising layer that does this...
> At least, I haven't found a good reason as to why it's too hard...
>

Have a go at designing one.

;-)


>
> > Problem B - even though the nodes use physical location, GPS etc, to
> > manage link-layer optimisation, we want it to be impossible to _prove_
> > that a given node is the site of an actionable (eg. unlawful) data item.
>
> Yup, though just that isn't enough for the safety of the node in some cases,
> where guilt is assumed and you have to prove the data isn't unlawful.
>

Not so fast:
1. they have to prove association
2. we don't have this situation in australia, at least not at the moment


>
> > JonSay:  Yes!  But its a higher level problem.
>
> I think it should be built into the networking stack as a default, rather
> than an applicaiton layer tunnel through the rest... it makes it look like a
> big nasty hack.
>

not if you keep your layers nice.


>
> > In other words, I say - just make the link layer as fast as we can.
> > Approach B is for when we get to the stage of worrying about what we are
> > transmitting.
>
> Yep, there's certainly elements of what we need to look at.  If we hadn't
> had the discussion, we wouldn't have come up with a way of migrating to our
> eventual solution from the initial implementation.  So this talk is
> basically very useful, and a good thing.
>
> Ben.

Thanks Ben.

Oh, and thanks for the SS stuff too, for some reason netscape wont let me send
back to you.

Jon


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