[MLB-WIRELESS] ITNews Story.

Robert Tchia robert.tchia at palantir.com.au
Tue Jul 23 21:35:58 EST 2002


Maybe it's time we have a PR person for melb-wireless. This is in no way
insinuating that Mr President is not doing a good.

Vote 1 - Matt Chipman for Mr PR  ;-p

Cheers
Rob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au [mailto:owner-
> melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Matt Chipman
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2002 9:12 PM
> To: Ryan Abbenhuys; melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] ITNews Story.
> 
> Ahhh yes the tall poppy syndrome is alive and well.  All those that
think
> they can perform better in front of a camera or over the phone or a
face
> to
> face interview please put up their hand.  Before you do, just remember
the
> questions come thick and fast, there is no rehearsal of questions cos
they
> like the Human side of the reactions to the questions they ask.
> 
> Knowing full well that whatever you say will be not good enuff, the
wrong
> thing, taken out of context and ultimately can be turned and
manipulated
> totally out of context.  And what is the alternative?  Don't do any
> interviews don't promote any Wireless networking and then allow the
major
> players to take the cream off the top.
> 
> What this article has done is take the wireless cause and promoted it.
> People will read the article and logon to the website.  They won't
> remember
> the news article but they will remeber this crap going on if they
decide
> to
> read the forums.
> 
> People not in Melbourne Wireless that do have interview time with
> journalists, should thank their lucky stars they have not had an out
of
> context writing journalist.  It is almost a guarentee you will get one
> eventually.  When you do, lets hope you can handle it as well as
Steven
> Haigh has.
> 
> -Matt Chipman
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Abbenhuys" <sneeze at alphalink.com.au>
> To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] ITNews Story.
> 
> 
> > xfesty,
> > by your strong stance and views against steve I assume you must be
from
> > melbourne. Will you be attending the next Melbwireless meeting to
sign
> up
> as
> > an official member as I'm sure something could be entered into the
> agenda
> > for you to speak about your view.  Also, I'm sure there are lots of
> other
> > people who would like to see/speak to you in person.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: xfesty
> > To: syd-wireless at lists.sydneywireless.com
> > Cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 3:48 PM
> > Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] ITNews Story.
> >
> >
> > http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=10341
> >
> > Just read that URL.  I'm a slight bit peeved after reading it.  I
don't
> > understand how one man could make Melb Wireless look so freakin'
bad.
> >
> > I think this one quote is relevant, where the incompetency shines
out:
> >
> > > Melbourne Wireless president Steven Haigh said his organisation is
not
> > trying to undercut the ISPs. "At the moment, we are not trying to
rival
> the
> > ISPS at all," he said.
> > > "Not yet, but you never know what happens," he added.
> >
> > ....thankyou for the great representation of community networks, Mr.
> "War
> on
> > ISP's".
> >
> > I've not heard a lot from Haigh, but I've heard him *continually*
> contradict
> > himself, and generally make Melbourne Wireless (and community
wireless
> > groups in general) look very taunting to telecommunication
corporations.
> > Its evident even in that one article.  Thank god Duane has half a
clue
> on
> > how to explain things, which stopped the article from going the way
it
> > seemed to be headed.
> >
> > I'm strongly of the opinion that Haigh may mean the end of free
> community
> > wireless in Australia.  Statements that he makes *all the time* is
going
> to
> > get us killed.  The reason we are here is because this is a hobby,
not
> > because we're deliberately trying to rip off a company.  Our
represented
> > attitudes is directly dependent on how the 'giants' handle us.  I
> honestly
> > do believe its possible that they could kill us completely off, if
they
> > wanted.
> >
> > Melb Wireless - I'm not sure if I'm the only one who feels this way,
but
> you
> > may want to re-evaluate who you have as your head man.  Remember -
these
> > people are representing YOU, and the future of community networks.
> > Personally I'm satisfied with people like Craig and Duane, who in
> media-type
> > situations have expressed the community's general interest
accurately,
> and
> > not make us look like a bunch of warez kiddies.  That's certainly
not
> why
> > I'm here.
> >
> > My general problem is the fact that anything Haigh says to represent
> Melb
> > Wireless just doesn't nessecarily reflect them; it actually reflects
any
> > community group in Australia.  And as a result of that, we get the
> > repercussions of such statements that he may make.  I'm not
comfortable
> with
> > that, or the way things may be headed if this keeps up.
> >
> > I think we all need to look at the big picture again and realise why
we
> want
> > this.  People are getting a /tad/ distracted.
> >
> > - Ryan
> >
> >
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