[MLB-WIRELESS] Fwd: [mesh] WOAH!

[Steven Haigh]

to throw a cat amoung the pidgeons....

why are we wanting to set up a pipe?

Why don't we let the ISPs come to us? we provide the existing network, the ISP 
takes care of billing etc... lets make our network work for us, not against 
us...

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:30, KevinL wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-06-30 at 15:55, Barry Park wrote:
> > It won't work.
> >
> > Why? Because how is MelbWireless going to control who has access to it
> > and who does not? Who pays it and what happens to MelbWireless people who
> > do not? Who's responsible if MelbWireless can't make a payment? Is
> > MelbWireless going to become a system based on the haves and the have
> > nots?
>
> These questions are answerable - and I suspect if melb-wireless were
> interested in dragging bandwidth in and distributing it to it's members,
> people would stick their hands up to manage the above issues (hint:
> there's at least one person on this list who already works with traffic
> counting and billing systems for wireless networks and has previously
> expressed an interest in helping melb-wireless build such for
> themselves...)
>
> > FFS if you want broadband Internet, pay for it yourself and sell all your
> > wireless gear, cos wireless community intranets ain't broadband Internet.
>
> True enough - but community wireless with Internet added for those who
> want to pay for it, could be a very nice add.
>
> Think of it like this:  Someone drags the 'net access in.  They place a
> login/traffic counting "barrier machine" on that link - if you want to
> use the 'net traffic, you login to that machine, it sets you up with
> either tunneled access or NAT or whatever, for a particular length of
> time.  At a single point of access, it's trivial to count packets and
> bill people either in advance or in arrears - for a community group,
> up-front payment (ie. buying your Mb before you use them) probably makes
> the most sense.
>
> Then, no matter which node you're in, you can login to the 'net access
> point and drag Internet traffic down to your machine.  If you don't want
> it, then that's cool too - just don't use it.
>
> Even if it's not a huge bandwidth, it strikes me as a damned cool idea.
> Don't write it off yet ;)
>
> The biggest problem I see is, as always, the legality - there's nothing
> changed there yet.
>
> KJL

-- 
Signed,
Steven Haigh
President - Melbourne Wireless
www.wireless.org.au



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