[MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Feed offer.

Steven Haigh netwiz at optushome.com.au
Tue Jan 15 18:04:58 EST 2002


Up until now, I haven't had the need to create a blacklist for addresses
banned from interacting with this mailing list... Please restrain your
comments, and save me the trouble of implementing a blacklist and adding you
as it's sole member.

This is not the forum for whining, and obviously illegal and off topic
subjects. I suggest you try a better place - such as the newsgroup alt.flame

Please do not reply to this message, and feel free to keep your postings to
the group to a minimum of *ON TOPIC* discussions.

Signed,
Steven Haigh

The Internet was designed by the American Military back in the late 60's. It
was
designed to be a decentralised information delivery system so that in the
event of
a nuclear attack, American Military leaders would still have access to
pornography.

----- Original Message -----
From: "fredrick farnsworth" <myfreewarez2000 at yahoo.com>
To: <melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Feed offer.


> Well who is interested in forming a warezforfree
> group?
> email me directly.
> We can organize a private meeting somewhere.
>
>
> --- bede <bede at gisbornehotel.com> wrote:
> > i cant say how stupied it is to mention warez,
> > and discuss how you will trade and leech pirated
> > goods it will all come
> > to no good!
> >
> > this network is not for the benifit of pirates and
> > hard core warezers
> > and i think we should distance oursevels from such
> > comments as it
> > will get us shut down and banned so quick and im
> > sure legeslation will
> > be
> > passed to ban such "private communications"
> >
> > Bede
> >
> > fredrick farnsworth wrote:
> > >
> > > I doubt you will ever get 200 11mbs connections,
> > luck
> > > if there will only be a handfull.
> > > Most people will get sub 1 mbit connections.
> > Probable
> > > about 90%.
> > > You cannot compare melbourne to what happens in
> > som
> > > densely populated cities else where, where there
> > would
> > > be 50+ nodes in 500-1000 meters range.  Melbourne
> > is a
> > > very spread out city with hills and troughs.
> > >
> > > Like i said before you would be surprized what
> > > backbone small isp's actually have,  512K is
> > heaps.
> > >
> > > I would like to for a Leech warez group, get a few
> > > people together, the cost will become small..
> > > The carrier lic you can get around, we are not
> > > reselling the service, all we are doing as getting
> > a
> > > group of people together to share cost, not
> > becoming a
> > > business entity to carry data for "other access"
> > the
> > > group of people are getting the service for their
> > own
> > > use.. And i believe this is the Key.
> > >
> > > Either that or we get 10 or so people who have
> > > cable/adsl connections, create a common repository
> > of
> > > Files collected and proxy that of to the wireless
> > > group for share warez.
> > >
> > > --- adamneat <adam.neat at agn-consulting.com> wrote:
> > > > <shakes head>
> > > >
> > > > 200 perm 11Mbs connections all trying to access
> > the
> > > > 'Net via a 512K ? An ISP
> > > > with 200 56K dialups and a 512K line should be
> > > > dragged over the coals for
> > > > dodgy/poor service; 200 3-6Mbs Wireless
> > connections
> > > > is just 10 times worse.
> > > >
> > > > Read through the other mail threads today on
> > this
> > > > whole issue. Unless you're
> > > > wanting to pay for the carrier license and
> > Melbourne
> > > > Wireless leech of that,
> > > > you're idea won't fly.
> > > >
> > > > Someone mentioned earlier ( I think it was Tony)
> > > > that this is an Intranet,
> > > > NOT an Internet service. You cannot traverse
> > > > non-licensed networks with
> > > > Internet / 3rd party data.
> > > >
> > > > Adam
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: fredrick farnsworth
> > > > [mailto:myfreewarez2000 at yahoo.com]
> > > > >Sent: Monday, 14 January 2002 2:18 PM
> > > > >To: melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org
> > > > >Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Feed
> > offer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >My testing with 802.11b stuff show me severe
> > speed
> > > > >degredation with distance.
> > > > >Perfect Line Of site is ok for 1-2 km at 3-6
> > m/bit
> > > > >Anything more you start getting sub 1 mbit
> > speeds.
> > > > >Just not worth the trouble.
> > > > >at least with 11a you start with a base rate 5
> > time
> > > > >faster.  Just waiting to get my hands on a
> > access
> > > > >point and cards to play with.
> > > > >
> > > > >"nobody mention internet"?  why, what else is
> > this
> > > > >syetm for?  You have to be kidding with that
> > > > >statement, We can get internet leggally, we
> > just
> > > > have
> > > > >to pay for it. And we can get it at a wholesale
> > > > price,
> > > > >off set cost maybe with some advertising and
> > small
> > > > >proxy fees.  Most small ISP don't even have
> > 512K!
> > > > >It will only cost about $40K per year, may be
> > just
> > > > >under, That is very cheap.  Say spread it
> > amongst
> > > > 200
> > > > >users, thats only $200 per year each! Unlimited
> > > > Hours
> > > > >24/7, not bye counting, what a deal!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >--- "ABBENHUYS, Ryan"
> > <rabbenhuys at mfbb.vic.gov.au>
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >> nobody even bother mentioning the word
> > "Internet"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> more trouble than it's worth at this point
> > and
> > > > will
> > > > >> most likely attract
> > > > >> undesirables.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So 802.11b will be obselete soon and creating
> > any
> > > > >> network with 802.11b is a
> > > > >> joke?
> > > > >> You sure bout that?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: fredrick farnsworth
> > > > >> [mailto:myfreewarez2000 at yahoo.com]
> > > > >> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2002 13:09
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I can set up a Node/Proxy with Internet Feed,
> > > > about
> > > > >> 512K  No Byte Charges,  Just a Fixed
> > Bandwisth
> > > > Cost.
> > > > >> But I will setup only a 802.11a spec, as
> > 802.11b
> > > > >> will
> > > > >> be obsolete soon, and speed quickly degrades
> > with
> > > > >> distance making a WAN type network with
> > 802.11b
> > > > a
> > > > >> joke.
> > > > >> Is anyone Interested in this?
> > > > >> I can get a good pricing on this.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Fredrick.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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