[MLB-WIRELESS] was: grumpy people now: freedom of information

[Allan Langford]

There is allways a loop hole as the clever accountant
said :D what about cached data? and mirrored data?

Allan
 --- adamneat <adam.neat at agn-consulting.com> wrote: >
Guys,
> 
> Theres not much to be creative about it. I've been
> watching this thread for
> a few weeks now.
> 
> A few points for everyone to read into:
> 
> 1) I know that there are a few organisations
> swarming and monitoring this
> type of proposed organisation *VERY* closely.
> 2) The ACA has supposedly been contacted with
> regards to what has been
> termed as a 'Melbourne public wireless group' -
> whether its this group, or
> another group, it doesn't matter, however, they are
> aware of it and they are
> monitoring.
> 3) I know the laws and legal situation of an
> organisation such as this. Its
> grey at best but, the bottom line is this:
> 
> 	NO 'Internet' traffic can traverse the wireless WAN
> - NONE - without a
> carrier license. I was involved in the setting up of
> a company 18 months ago
> which ended up requiring a carrier license to
> operate - not enough venture
> capital could be sought to cover the extra costs of
> a national carrier
> license (anywhere from 3 - 5 million.)
> 
> 	It is legal to transfer what we want over a
> wireless WAN so long as its not
> internet data - ie: only data sourced within the
> entities network (ie: the
> wireless WAN). I can't offer my internet connection
> interface to anyone
> else. period.
> 
> So, there is no use in discussing anything to the
> contrary.
> 
> The legals dont state that we cannot have
> independent interfaces to the
> Internet at large and share private data - this
> again is very grey and from
> the various discussions I've had with the ACA, this
> appears to be ok.
> 
> The concept of the group would be for it have shared
> resources internally
> and nothing more than that - which does suggest a
> LOT of value in getting it
> up and running.
> 
> I'm happy to provide more info as requested but
> these are the boundaries.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Adam
> 
> ----
> Adam Neat
> Senior Consultant - Accenture LLP
> Architecture & Core Technologies
> Communication & High Technology MU
> Melbourne, Australia
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Michael Bailey
> [mailto:mbailey at enternet.com.au]
> >Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2002 4:33 PM
> >To: melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org
> >Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] grumpy people - get a
> move on
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:37:36PM +1100, Hamish
> Moffatt wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 06:46:34PM +1100, Tony
> Langdon, VK3JED wrote:
> >> > Or not... Providing Internet access at this
> stage is to
> >open up a legal can
> >> > of worms.  I say let's skip it and work on peer
> services. :)
> >>
> >> There's no can of worms - it's just plain
> illegal.
> >
> >Can anyone point out the relevant parts of that act
> that make Internet
> >access illegal. I'm assuming we're referring to the
> Telecommunications
> >Act 1997.
> >
> >TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1997
>
>http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/top.htm
> >
> >It would be great to have some evidence to refer
> to. This might prompt
> >some creative and positive ideas on what can be
> done.
> >
> >cheers,
> >
> >Mike
> >
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