[MLB-WIRELESS] Structure vote at the April 12th meeting.

[David Saab]

Some of your points are very valid and correct Craig. However there are
only a few people trying to do the work of many, so if you would like to
input on the suggestions, why don't you come on down to the meeting
scheduled today to discuss this very topic. We could use your input and
I'm sure that you would be able to make some valuable contributions.

If you don't come and contribute, then its rather impossible for any
group to be able to act with perfect knowledge, and the people concerned
can only do their best, as they see it being the in the best interests
of the group.

People who possess a legal background would be especially useful,
especially as would require quite a lot of work done on a pro bono
basis.

With regard to the public liability issue, as you know it is a rather
contentious issue Australia wide, and even governments and corporates
are either going ahead without public liability insurance, paying much
higher fees, or closing the event all together.

In any case, it would be my suggestion that we would need to resolve the
issue of organisational identity (at least a group of people that will
be representative of our group) so that we can look at these issues in a
planned fashion.

Anybody who is interested in helping please come to the meeting today,
and help us build a better community network!

Dave.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Craig Mead -
Sydney Wireless Access Group
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2002 12:00 PM
To: melbwireless at www.wireless.org.au
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Structure vote at the April 12th meeting.


|| This has literally just been put up.
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|| ** This is not finished yet. **
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While I understand you still said this is a work in progress....I am
merely commenting on the following points

| "Objective - Free Public Broadband"

There are many definitions for "Free".
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=free

Which one are you basing your network on?
A "free" in the no money sense, is not possible, people need to buy
hardware.

| "Have a bank account with cheque withdrawal by signature of Treasurer 
| and
either the President or Secretary. "

Who's name is the bank account going under? (AFAIK) Unless you are a
company/organisation/association you have to sign up for personal bank
accounts, you can get accounts in joint names, but if someone then
leaves the "board" (or whatever your term for the head group is) this
account will need to be closed and re-opened every time the positions
change (each year is very likely)


|  "Members cannot be held liable for damages or losses."

Have you had legal advice on this statement?

Yet again, (AFAIK) all users on the network will be held responsible for
their own actions unless the group is incorporated in some form (and in
this case you legally require Public Liability Insurance,  and unless
someone is personally going to foot the bill, you will have to consider
membership fees). Unless whoever is writing this document is willing to
state that he/she/they are claiming sole  responsilibity for everyones
actions on the network, I very highly doubt this statement is correct.

It's like writing a document and signing it saying "No matter what law I
break while driving on the road, I do not hold myself legally
responsible"

A judge will laugh at you and you'll be a rather large spot of bother.

nb: I am not agreeing/disagreeing with anything said or trying to start
an arguement, I just highly advise you check into the above points.

Regards, Craig Mead


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